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prologic
twtxt.net
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@fastidious On GIF and potentially arbitrary media upload support... I agree we can do something about just accepting and uploading original quality media, which in itself would just magically™ fix/support GIFs too. 👌

I _do not_ think it's "fitting" per se to just support any arbitrary crap myself personally, I mean this is what I built fbox for 😅

Now on to my concerns...
prologic
twtxt.net
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@fastidious On GIF and potentially arbitrary media upload support... I agree we can do something about just accepting and uploading original quality media, which in itself would just magically™ fix/support GIFs too. 👌

I _do not_ think it's "fitting" per se to just support any arbitrary crap myself personally, I mean this is what I built fbox for 😅

Now on to my concerns...
prologic
twtxt.net
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Concerns:

- Supporting folks with poor bandwidth or limited traffic plans. Yes! This is still a thing.
- Performance is still a consideration. Larger media will incur additional latency, cost, bandwidth, etc.
- Not everyone would _really_ want this per se, see above point.

I kind of like the approach @lyse and @movq already take, which I'm sure they've developed their own "processes" for this. Perhaps we can do something similar, accept the original, still do some processing, show the smaller versions by default and let users decide to see the original?
prologic
twtxt.net
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Concerns:

- Supporting folks with poor bandwidth or limited traffic plans. Yes! This is still a thing.
- Performance is still a consideration. Larger media will incur additional latency, cost, bandwidth, etc.
- Not everyone would _really_ want this per se, see above point.

I kind of like the approach @lyse and @movq already take, which I'm sure they've developed their own "processes" for this. Perhaps we can do something similar, accept the original, still do some processing, show the smaller versions by default and let users decide to see the original?
fastidious
arrakis.netbros.com
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@prologic all valid points, for certain specific situations. As the aim is to cater for everyone then my approach wouldn’t have been appropriate.

I know I can host my own files and link them, but that is out of the way, and not as handy as doing all through the web interface.
prologic
twtxt.net
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@fastidious I just think we have to be mindful of how we approach this. There is nothing worse than a poor user experience with a "spinning wheel" loading up multi-Megabyte images on a poor Internet connection. Maybe it's better in the US, but even here in Australia, our so-called 4G/LTE/5G is utter rubbish....
prologic
twtxt.net
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@fastidious I just think we have to be mindful of how we approach this. There is nothing worse than a poor user experience with a "spinning wheel" loading up multi-Megabyte images on a poor Internet connection. Maybe it's better in the US, but even here in Australia, our so-called 4G/LTE/5G is utter rubbish....
prologic
twtxt.net
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There is also a **real** cost to allowing arbitrary media in original quality (_up to the -U/--max-upload-size_) and that cost comes to the end-user / viewer who _may_ actually be paying for "Traffic" -- I kid you not, we do this in Australia still today in #2021 -- I wish I was making this up 🤦‍♂️
prologic
twtxt.net
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There is also a **real** cost to allowing arbitrary media in original quality (_up to the -U/--max-upload-size_) and that cost comes to the end-user / viewer who _may_ actually be paying for "Traffic" -- I kid you not, we do this in Australia still today in #2021 -- I wish I was making this up 🤦‍♂️
prologic
twtxt.net
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So... I _think_ we can do this; it just comes down to providing choices to end-users, making the default "sane" for everyone or well-balanced and providing Pod Owners like you the freedom/flexibility to change these options and also as an end-users.
prologic
twtxt.net
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So... I _think_ we can do this; it just comes down to providing choices to end-users, making the default "sane" for everyone or well-balanced and providing Pod Owners like you the freedom/flexibility to change these options and also as an end-users.
fastidious
arrakis.netbros.com
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@prologic yeah, I am guilty of forgetting each place is different, even in the States! In general we have relatively decent connectivity. Flat fee traffic is also a thing.
prologic
twtxt.net
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So... Let's do this... Let's write this up as an EPIC on the Issue Tracker and we'll get this done. We will ensure we tick all the checkboxes ✅
prologic
twtxt.net
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So... Let's do this... Let's write this up as an EPIC on the Issue Tracker and we'll get this done. We will ensure we tick all the checkboxes ✅
fastidious
arrakis.netbros.com
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@prologic so, I write the “epic” request? If so, will send it in on my tomorrow. 👊🏻
eldersnake
yarn.andrewjvpowell.com
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@prologic
> I just think we have to be mindful of how we approach this. There is nothing worse than a poor user experience with a “spinning wheel” loading up multi-Megabyte images on a poor Internet connection. Maybe it’s better in the US, but even here in Australia, our so-called 4G/LTE/5G is utter rubbish….

And not even just users, there's some people like myself even hosting on such a rubbish connection...
I know the easy argument would be just "buy a real host" or something, but if we're serious about the environment and ease of access for everyone etc etc, I think we need to be a bit more thoughtful than the usual social media alternatives.
fastidious
arrakis.netbros.com
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@eldersnake we are all users, whether we run a pod or not ☺️.

I am sure the “usual social media alternatives” are quite thoughtful. On my experience, Twitter does a decent job on what it accepts (format and size wise), and the resultant file after upload.

Of course, we wouldn’t be on this yarn if there were a slightly broader support for graphic formats, namely animated GIFs. 😂