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@prologic Everything’s on fire. We’re going to be complaining for a couple of days, then we’ll continue as usual, repeating the same mistakes. Nothing to see, carry on. 🫤🥴

(I’m just glad it didn’t affect us at work.)
@prologic Everything’s on fire. We’re going to be complaining for a couple of days, then we’ll continue as usual, repeating the same mistakes. Nothing to see, carry on. 🫤🥴

(I’m just glad it didn’t affect us at work.)
@prologic Everything’s on fire. We’re going to be complaining for a couple of days, then we’ll continue as usual, repeating the same mistakes. Nothing to see, carry on. 🫤🥴

(I’m just glad it didn’t affect us at work.)
@lyse

> Then there comes in feature creep.

This is driving me nuts. Everybody thinks that “development has to be kept alive!” When people see a project without commits in the last 2 years, they think it’s dead and not worth using. Bah, why? Software can be “done”. If no bugs are known, then there’s no need to change anything.

All these ideas are old. I’ve heard about much of this from meillo some 15 years ago and he didn’t come up with it, either.

It’s all super unpopular. Why? Many of my projects see a burst of commits in the beginning and then mostly just maintenance – and that’s great. It saves me from so much trouble and work. For example, my X11 wallpaper setter was written in 2017, I’m using it daily all the time, it just works, boom, done.

A project isn’t dead if it doesn’t see commits anymore – it’s dead if nobody *maintains* it anymore.
@lyse

> Then there comes in feature creep.

This is driving me nuts. Everybody thinks that “development has to be kept alive!” When people see a project without commits in the last 2 years, they think it’s dead and not worth using. Bah, why? Software can be “done”. If no bugs are known, then there’s no need to change anything.

All these ideas are old. I’ve heard about much of this from meillo some 15 years ago and he didn’t come up with it, either.

It’s all super unpopular. Why? Many of my projects see a burst of commits in the beginning and then mostly just maintenance – and that’s great. It saves me from so much trouble and work. For example, my X11 wallpaper setter was written in 2017, I’m using it daily all the time, it just works, boom, done.

A project isn’t dead if it doesn’t see commits anymore – it’s dead if nobody *maintains* it anymore.
@lyse

> Then there comes in feature creep.

This is driving me nuts. Everybody thinks that “development has to be kept alive!” When people see a project without commits in the last 2 years, they think it’s dead and not worth using. Bah, why? Software can be “done”. If no bugs are known, then there’s no need to change anything.

All these ideas are old. I’ve heard about much of this from meillo some 15 years ago and he didn’t come up with it, either.

It’s all super unpopular. Why? Many of my projects see a burst of commits in the beginning and then mostly just maintenance – and that’s great. It saves me from so much trouble and work. For example, my X11 wallpaper setter was written in 2017, I’m using it daily all the time, it just works, boom, done.

A project isn’t dead if it doesn’t see commits anymore – it’s dead if nobody *maintains* it anymore.
@lyse

> Then there comes in feature creep.

This is driving me nuts. Everybody thinks that “development has to be kept alive!” When people see a project without commits in the last 2 years, they think it’s dead and not worth using. Bah, why? Software can be “done”. If no bugs are known, then there’s no need to change anything.

All these ideas are old. I’ve heard about much of this from meillo some 15 years ago and he didn’t come up with it, either.

It’s all super unpopular. Why? Many of my projects see a burst of commits in the beginning and then mostly just maintenance – and that’s great. It saves me from so much trouble and work. For example, my X11 wallpaper setter was written in 2017, I’m using it daily all the time, it just works, boom, done.

A project isn’t dead if it doesn’t see commits anymore – it’s dead if nobody *maintains* it anymore.
@mckinley Last time I tried jabber was probably 10 years ago. How’s group chat these days? Is it comparable to “modern” chat systems, does it feel the same?

I guess it’s irrelevant which platform I’m going to propose as an alternative to WhatsApp. It’s the same old problem: Almost all their contacts are on WhatsApp, so that’s what they want to use, end of story.
@mckinley Last time I tried jabber was probably 10 years ago. How’s group chat these days? Is it comparable to “modern” chat systems, does it feel the same?

I guess it’s irrelevant which platform I’m going to propose as an alternative to WhatsApp. It’s the same old problem: Almost all their contacts are on WhatsApp, so that’s what they want to use, end of story.
@mckinley Last time I tried jabber was probably 10 years ago. How’s group chat these days? Is it comparable to “modern” chat systems, does it feel the same?

I guess it’s irrelevant which platform I’m going to propose as an alternative to WhatsApp. It’s the same old problem: Almost all their contacts are on WhatsApp, so that’s what they want to use, end of story.
@mckinley Last time I tried jabber was probably 10 years ago. How’s group chat these days? Is it comparable to “modern” chat systems, does it feel the same?

I guess it’s irrelevant which platform I’m going to propose as an alternative to WhatsApp. It’s the same old problem: Almost all their contacts are on WhatsApp, so that’s what they want to use, end of story.
@lyse You had me in the first half, I thought you were going to their concert. 😅 That would have surprised me.

I had some pleasant experiences with public transportation lately, but that wasn’t Deutsche Bahn.

Would a bike or an ebike be an alternative for you? 🤔
@lyse You had me in the first half, I thought you were going to their concert. 😅 That would have surprised me.

I had some pleasant experiences with public transportation lately, but that wasn’t Deutsche Bahn.

Would a bike or an ebike be an alternative for you? 🤔
@lyse You had me in the first half, I thought you were going to their concert. 😅 That would have surprised me.

I had some pleasant experiences with public transportation lately, but that wasn’t Deutsche Bahn.

Would a bike or an ebike be an alternative for you? 🤔
@lyse You had me in the first half, I thought you were going to their concert. 😅 That would have surprised me.

I had some pleasant experiences with public transportation lately, but that wasn’t Deutsche Bahn.

Would a bike or an ebike be an alternative for you? 🤔
@prologic @bender It’s a twtxt feed that anyone can post to via Gopher: gopher://g.nixers.net/1/%7eanon/

Do we think this is a problem? 🤔 If so, you should be able to contact the admin in #nixers on libera.chat.
@prologic @bender It’s a twtxt feed that anyone can post to via Gopher: gopher://g.nixers.net/1/%7eanon/

Do we think this is a problem? 🤔 If so, you should be able to contact the admin in #nixers on libera.chat.
@prologic @bender It’s a twtxt feed that anyone can post to via Gopher: gopher://g.nixers.net/1/%7eanon/

Do we think this is a problem? 🤔 If so, you should be able to contact the admin in #nixers on libera.chat.
@prologic @bender It’s a twtxt feed that anyone can post to via Gopher: gopher://g.nixers.net/1/%7eanon/

Do we think this is a problem? 🤔 If so, you should be able to contact the admin in #nixers on libera.chat.
@prologic Kind of, yeah. (I wish they wouldn’t focus so much on “elitism” and would fix their condescending tone.)
@prologic Kind of, yeah. (I wish they wouldn’t focus so much on “elitism”.)
@prologic Kind of, yeah. (I wish they wouldn’t focus so much on “elitism”.)
@prologic Kind of, yeah. (I wish they wouldn’t focus so much on “elitism”.)
@prologic Kind of, yeah. (I wish they wouldn’t focus so much on “elitism”.)
Regarding complexity budget, slow software, all that:

Very few people do take pride in building simple, elegant, high-quality systems, do they? Why is that? Why are huge shiny things with tons of features more attractive? 🤔

I never explicitly thought about this, to be honest. It was only at the back of my head. And I never tried to teach our younger “students” at work: “Hey, it’s a great achievement to build something simple and elegant. That’s something to be proud of!”

Worse, simple software is often described as “boring”. Yes, in a way, it is boring, because your brain doesn’t have to get into overdrive to understand it. But that’s exactly the point. And it’s *hard to achieve that*! Simple software isn’t just “fewer lines of code”, you have to be pretty clever to solve a problem in a simple and elegant way. So it’s something to be proud of.

Could this be an intuitive, *emotional* way to get more people on board the “simple software”-train? 🤔
Regarding complexity budget, slow software, all that:

Very few people do take pride in building simple, elegant, high-quality systems, do they? Why is that? Why are huge shiny things with tons of features more attractive? 🤔

I never explicitly thought about this, to be honest. It was only at the back of my head. And I never tried to teach our younger “students” at work: “Hey, it’s a great achievement to build something simple and elegant. That’s something to be proud of!”

Worse, simple software is often described as “boring”. Yes, in a way, it is boring, because your brain doesn’t have to get into overdrive to understand it. But that’s exactly the point. And it’s *hard to achieve that*! Simple software isn’t just “fewer lines of code”, you have to be pretty clever to solve a problem in a simple and elegant way. So it’s something to be proud of.

Could this be an intuitive, *emotional* way to get more people on board the “simple software”-train? 🤔
Regarding complexity budget, slow software, all that:

Very few people do take pride in building simple, elegant, high-quality systems, do they? Why is that? Why are huge shiny things with tons of features more attractive? 🤔

I never explicitly thought about this, to be honest. It was only at the back of my head. And I never tried to teach our younger “students” at work: “Hey, it’s a great achievement to build something simple and elegant. That’s something to be proud of!”

Worse, simple software is often described as “boring”. Yes, in a way, it is boring, because your brain doesn’t have to get into overdrive to understand it. But that’s exactly the point. And it’s *hard to achieve that*! Simple software isn’t just “fewer lines of code”, you have to be pretty clever to solve a problem in a simple and elegant way. So it’s something to be proud of.

Could this be an intuitive, *emotional* way to get more people on board the “simple software”-train? 🤔
Regarding complexity budget, slow software, all that:

Very few people do take pride in building simple, elegant, high-quality systems, do they? Why is that? Why are huge shiny things with tons of features more attractive? 🤔

I never explicitly thought about this, to be honest. It was only at the back of my head. And I never tried to teach our younger “students” at work: “Hey, it’s a great achievement to build something simple and elegant. That’s something to be proud of!”

Worse, simple software is often described as “boring”. Yes, in a way, it is boring, because your brain doesn’t have to get into overdrive to understand it. But that’s exactly the point. And it’s *hard to achieve that*! Simple software isn’t just “fewer lines of code”, you have to be pretty clever to solve a problem in a simple and elegant way. So it’s something to be proud of.

Could this be an intuitive, *emotional* way to get more people on board the “simple software”-train? 🤔
@lyse Yeah, you’re right. The quality aspect is lacking, too. Sigh. 😅

Focus on quality, focus on “doing it right”, make that your primary goal. And everything else shall fall into place.

If it only were that simple. 🫤😅
@lyse Yeah, you’re right. The quality aspect is lacking, too. Sigh. 😅

Focus on quality, focus on “doing it right”, make that your primary goal. And everything else shall fall into place.

If it only were that simple. 🫤😅
@lyse Yeah, you’re right. The quality aspect is lacking, too. Sigh. 😅

Focus on quality, focus on “doing it right”, make that your primary goal. And everything else shall fall into place.

If it only were that simple. 🫤😅
@lyse Yeah, you’re right. The quality aspect is lacking, too. Sigh. 😅

Focus on quality, focus on “doing it right”, make that your primary goal. And everything else shall fall into place.

If it only were that simple. 🫤😅
@lyse Yeah, it’s hard(er) with family members. I shouldn’t have started that Matrix stuff – before that, they had an easier time accepting that I don’t use WhatsApp. Now it’s more like “why don’t you switch?”

“Joy of missing out”, eh? :D
@lyse Yeah, it’s hard(er) with family members. I shouldn’t have started that Matrix stuff – before that, they had an easier time accepting that I don’t use WhatsApp. Now it’s more like “why don’t you switch?”

“Joy of missing out”, eh? :D
@lyse Yeah, it’s hard(er) with family members. I shouldn’t have started that Matrix stuff – before that, they had an easier time accepting that I don’t use WhatsApp. Now it’s more like “why don’t you switch?”

“Joy of missing out”, eh? :D
@lyse Yeah, it’s hard(er) with family members. I shouldn’t have started that Matrix stuff – before that, they had an easier time accepting that I don’t use WhatsApp. Now it’s more like “why don’t you switch?”

“Joy of missing out”, eh? :D
@prologic I’ll look into it. 🤔 The good thing is that I *think* some people already use Signal. We’ll see.
@prologic I’ll look into it. 🤔 The good thing is that I *think* some people already use Signal. We’ll see.
@prologic I’ll look into it. 🤔 The good thing is that I *think* some people already use Signal. We’ll see.
@prologic I’ll look into it. 🤔 The good thing is that I *think* some people already use Signal. We’ll see.
If WhatsApp was just a messenger, I probably wouldn’t be so reluctant to join. But it’s an app that *insists* on running on a smartphone. It has access to so much metadata … Fuck this shit. 🫤
If WhatsApp was just a messenger, I probably wouldn’t be so reluctant to join. But it’s an app that *insists* on running on a smartphone. It has access to so much metadata … Fuck this shit. 🫤
If WhatsApp was just a messenger, I probably wouldn’t be so reluctant to join. But it’s an app that *insists* on running on a smartphone. It has access to so much metadata … Fuck this shit. 🫤
If WhatsApp was just a messenger, I probably wouldn’t be so reluctant to join. But it’s an app that *insists* on running on a smartphone. It has access to so much metadata … Fuck this shit. 🫤
The “Matrix Experiment”, i.e. running a Matrix server for our family, has failed completely and miserably. People don’t accept it. They attribute unrelated things to it, like “I can’t send messages to you, I don’t reach you! It doesn’t work!” Yes, you do, I get those messages, I just don’t reply quickly enough because I’m at work or simply doing something else.

I’ll probably shut it down.

Nobody cares about privacy. The reasons I bring up in discussions are “too nerdy”. They put *all* their stuff to Google or Apple, so why would messaging be any different? (We’re not even using all those Matrix crypto stuff … That would be insane.)

It’s a lost cause. I’m frustrated.

Will I give in and use WhatsApp instead? Not sure yet.
The “Matrix Experiment”, i.e. running a Matrix server for our family, has failed completely and miserably. People don’t accept it. They attribute unrelated things to it, like “I can’t send messages to you, I don’t reach you! It doesn’t work!” Yes, you do, I get those messages, I just don’t reply quickly enough because I’m at work or simply doing something else.

I’ll probably shut it down.

Nobody cares about privacy. The reasons I bring up in discussions are “too nerdy”. They put *all* their stuff to Google or Apple, so why would messaging be any different? (We’re not even using all those Matrix crypto stuff … That would be insane.)

It’s a lost cause. I’m frustrated.

Will I give in and use WhatsApp instead? Not sure yet.
The “Matrix Experiment”, i.e. running a Matrix server for our family, has failed completely and miserably. People don’t accept it. They attribute unrelated things to it, like “I can’t send messages to you, I don’t reach you! It doesn’t work!” Yes, you do, I get those messages, I just don’t reply quickly enough because I’m at work or simply doing something else.

I’ll probably shut it down.

Nobody cares about privacy. The reasons I bring up in discussions are “too nerdy”. They put *all* their stuff to Google or Apple, so why would messaging be any different? (We’re not even using all those Matrix crypto stuff … That would be insane.)

It’s a lost cause. I’m frustrated.

Will I give in and use WhatsApp instead? Not sure yet.
The “Matrix Experiment”, i.e. running a Matrix server for our family, has failed completely and miserably. People don’t accept it. They attribute unrelated things to it, like “I can’t send messages to you, I don’t reach you! It doesn’t work!” Yes, you do, I get those messages, I just don’t reply quickly enough because I’m at work or simply doing something else.

I’ll probably shut it down.

Nobody cares about privacy. The reasons I bring up in discussions are “too nerdy”. They put *all* their stuff to Google or Apple, so why would messaging be any different? (We’re not even using all those Matrix crypto stuff … That would be insane.)

It’s a lost cause. I’m frustrated.

Will I give in and use WhatsApp instead? Not sure yet.
@prologic I’m not smart/educated enough to come up with a formal spec. 🤔

It’s somewhat telling that the HTMX blogpost also (mostly) only talks about feelings, not hard facts.
@prologic I’m not smart/educated enough to come up with a formal spec. 🤔

It’s somewhat telling that the HTMX blogpost also (mostly) only talks about feelings, not hard facts.
@prologic I’m not smart/educated enough to come up with a formal spec. 🤔

It’s somewhat telling that the HTMX blogpost also (mostly) only talks about feelings, not hard facts.
@prologic I’m not smart/educated enough to come up with a formal spec. 🤔

It’s somewhat telling that the HTMX blogpost also (mostly) only talks about feelings, not hard facts.
@prologic How about “now”? 😅

Personally, I’ve been doing this for a long time now. Minimal(-ish), slow pace, no pressure. Works quite well for me. The idea isn’t very popular, though. 🥴
@prologic How about “now”? 😅

Personally, I’ve been doing this for a long time now. Minimal(-ish), slow pace, no pressure. Works quite well for me. The idea isn’t very popular, though. 🥴
@prologic How about “now”? 😅

Personally, I’ve been doing this for a long time now. Minimal(-ish), slow pace, no pressure. Works quite well for me. The idea isn’t very popular, though. 🥴
@prologic How about “now”? 😅

Personally, I’ve been doing this for a long time now. Minimal(-ish), slow pace, no pressure. Works quite well for me. The idea isn’t very popular, though. 🥴
@lyse Awww, nice birdie. Lovely pic. 😊
@lyse Awww, nice birdie. Lovely pic. 😊
@lyse Awww, nice birdie. Lovely pic. 😊
@lyse Awww, nice birdie. Lovely pic. 😊
> We desperately need to start a Slow Software movement. High quality, intentionally designed, low defect software done at a quarter of the pace for the same price. Because we've been destroying the mental health of developers for the last quarter century, and what do we have to show for it but a giant mess?

https://dice.camp/@uncanny_kate/112724979643603832
> We desperately need to start a Slow Software movement. High quality, intentionally designed, low defect software done at a quarter of the pace for the same price. Because we've been destroying the mental health of developers for the last quarter century, and what do we have to show for it but a giant mess?

https://dice.camp/@uncanny_kate/112724979643603832
> We desperately need to start a Slow Software movement. High quality, intentionally designed, low defect software done at a quarter of the pace for the same price. Because we've been destroying the mental health of developers for the last quarter century, and what do we have to show for it but a giant mess?

https://dice.camp/@uncanny_kate/112724979643603832
> We desperately need to start a Slow Software movement. High quality, intentionally designed, low defect software done at a quarter of the pace for the same price. Because we've been destroying the mental health of developers for the last quarter century, and what do we have to show for it but a giant mess?

https://dice.camp/@uncanny_kate/112724979643603832
@lyse

> Maybe your softwares are just perfect and there are simply no bug reports and contributions required. :-)

Haha. 😂 I guess my software is just way too irrelevant. 😅 Or maybe not. I just don’t know. I should add some telemetry. 😏

> I just also see the issue with smaller mail servers being blocked by the large ones. This also happened to me I believe. My mails just never made it to the people. Or they were ignored, I cannot tell.

To be honest, when I send private email, like insurance stuff or to the bank or similar, I always get a reply. The recipients are German mail servers, usually run by those institutions or individuals. Sometimes it’s MS Outlook or Telekom. In other words, it’s *not* Google. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm …
@lyse

> Maybe your softwares are just perfect and there are simply no bug reports and contributions required. :-)

Haha. 😂 I guess my software is just way too irrelevant. 😅 Or maybe not. I just don’t know. I should add some telemetry. 😏

> I just also see the issue with smaller mail servers being blocked by the large ones. This also happened to me I believe. My mails just never made it to the people. Or they were ignored, I cannot tell.

To be honest, when I send private email, like insurance stuff or to the bank or similar, I always get a reply. The recipients are German mail servers, usually run by those institutions or individuals. Sometimes it’s MS Outlook or Telekom. In other words, it’s *not* Google. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm …
@lyse

> Maybe your softwares are just perfect and there are simply no bug reports and contributions required. :-)

Haha. 😂 I guess my software is just way too irrelevant. 😅 Or maybe not. I just don’t know. I should add some telemetry. 😏

> I just also see the issue with smaller mail servers being blocked by the large ones. This also happened to me I believe. My mails just never made it to the people. Or they were ignored, I cannot tell.

To be honest, when I send private email, like insurance stuff or to the bank or similar, I always get a reply. The recipients are German mail servers, usually run by those institutions or individuals. Sometimes it’s MS Outlook or Telekom. In other words, it’s *not* Google. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm …
@lyse

> Maybe your softwares are just perfect and there are simply no bug reports and contributions required. :-)

Haha. 😂 I guess my software is just way too irrelevant. 😅 Or maybe not. I just don’t know. I should add some telemetry. 😏

> I just also see the issue with smaller mail servers being blocked by the large ones. This also happened to me I believe. My mails just never made it to the people. Or they were ignored, I cannot tell.

To be honest, when I send private email, like insurance stuff or to the bank or similar, I always get a reply. The recipients are German mail servers, usually run by those institutions or individuals. Sometimes it’s MS Outlook or Telekom. In other words, it’s *not* Google. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm …
@lyse Is that an actual lake? And a fish? It looks so small. I always wonder how fish end up there. 🤔
@lyse Is that an actual lake? And a fish? It looks so small. I always wonder how fish end up there. 🤔
@lyse Is that an actual lake? And a fish? It looks so small. I always wonder how fish end up there. 🤔
@lyse Is that an actual lake? And a fish? It looks so small. I always wonder how fish end up there. 🤔
@prologic Well … 😆
@prologic Well … 😆
@prologic Well … 😆
@prologic Well … 😆
@prologic

> Should sit down and see what the contributions have been for some of my projects before and after the migration away from Github? 🤔

I might do that for my projects. 🤔

> Maybe it's a discovery problem too?

Yeah, well, apart from my own blog and rarely Mastodon, I don’t really talk about my projects anymore. I used to mention them on forums and reddit and the likes. Forums were really good for that. But I mean, forums are dying out as well, so where *do* you “promote” your projects? 🤔 On Mastodon, it usually gets drowned in the noise.

> I sure hope not, that kind of defeats the point of an ecosystem that is suppose to encourage distributed software development and distributed forms of collaboration. Right? 🤔

It does, yes. Question is, do people actually care about *distributed* development anymore? (Did they ever?)
@prologic

> Should sit down and see what the contributions have been for some of my projects before and after the migration away from Github? 🤔

I might do that for my projects. 🤔

> Maybe it's a discovery problem too?

Yeah, well, apart from my own blog and rarely Mastodon, I don’t really talk about my projects anymore. I used to mention them on forums and reddit and the likes. Forums were really good for that. But I mean, forums are dying out as well, so where *do* you “promote” your projects? 🤔 On Mastodon, it usually gets drowned in the noise.

> I sure hope not, that kind of defeats the point of an ecosystem that is suppose to encourage distributed software development and distributed forms of collaboration. Right? 🤔

It does, yes. Question is, do people actually care about *distributed* development anymore? (Did they ever?)
@prologic

> Should sit down and see what the contributions have been for some of my projects before and after the migration away from Github? 🤔

I might do that for my projects. 🤔

> Maybe it's a discovery problem too?

Yeah, well, apart from my own blog and rarely Mastodon, I don’t really talk about my projects anymore. I used to mention them on forums and reddit and the likes. Forums were really good for that. But I mean, forums are dying out as well, so where *do* you “promote” your projects? 🤔 On Mastodon, it usually gets drowned in the noise.

> I sure hope not, that kind of defeats the point of an ecosystem that is suppose to encourage distributed software development and distributed forms of collaboration. Right? 🤔

It does, yes. Question is, do people actually care about *distributed* development anymore? (Did they ever?)
@prologic

> Should sit down and see what the contributions have been for some of my projects before and after the migration away from Github? 🤔

I might do that for my projects. 🤔

> Maybe it's a discovery problem too?

Yeah, well, apart from my own blog and rarely Mastodon, I don’t really talk about my projects anymore. I used to mention them on forums and reddit and the likes. Forums were really good for that. But I mean, forums are dying out as well, so where *do* you “promote” your projects? 🤔 On Mastodon, it usually gets drowned in the noise.

> I sure hope not, that kind of defeats the point of an ecosystem that is suppose to encourage distributed software development and distributed forms of collaboration. Right? 🤔

It does, yes. Question is, do people actually care about *distributed* development anymore? (Did they ever?)
@prologic No, just a minor injury, as far as I know.
@prologic No, just a minor injury, as far as I know.
@prologic No, just a minor injury, as far as I know.
@prologic No, just a minor injury, as far as I know.
This sums up the Matrix experience: https://cathode.church/@apothecary/112742706806370926
This sums up the Matrix experience: https://cathode.church/@apothecary/112742706806370926
This sums up the Matrix experience: https://cathode.church/@apothecary/112742706806370926
This sums up the Matrix experience: https://cathode.church/@apothecary/112742706806370926
@prologic

> I would never ask anyone to send me patches via Email.

That’s not even what I’m doing, but I just realized that my bugs.html page isn’t really clear about that. It *implies* that patches are meant to be sent via email and I’m fine if that happens – but I don’t insist on people doing that. You might as well send me a link to your fork on GitHub or your own server or whatever.

I should clarify that. 🤔
@prologic

> I would never ask anyone to send me patches via Email.

That’s not even what I’m doing, but I just realized that my bugs.html page isn’t really clear about that. It *implies* that patches are meant to be sent via email and I’m fine if that happens – but I don’t insist on people doing that. You might as well send me a link to your fork on GitHub or your own server or whatever.

I should clarify that. 🤔
@prologic

> I would never ask anyone to send me patches via Email.

That’s not even what I’m doing, but I just realized that my bugs.html page isn’t really clear about that. It *implies* that patches are meant to be sent via email and I’m fine if that happens – but I don’t insist on people doing that. You might as well send me a link to your fork on GitHub or your own server or whatever.

I should clarify that. 🤔
@prologic

> I would never ask anyone to send me patches via Email.

That’s not even what I’m doing, but I just realized that my bugs.html page isn’t really clear about that. It *implies* that patches are meant to be sent via email and I’m fine if that happens – but I don’t insist on people doing that. You might as well send me a link to your fork on GitHub or your own server or whatever.

I should clarify that. 🤔
@prologic Huh, okay, that’s surprising to me. I had thought that Gitea would be easy enough for people to use. I mean, it even has the “Sign in with GitHub” button. 🤔 And it’s not like Gitea is some arcane/archaic tool like Bugzilla, which is just horrible to use.

So … what’s stopping people?

> I'm not sure what else we can do? I'm nNOT moving back to Github, ever.

Same. There are alternatives like https://codeberg.org/ now, but does that really help? GitHub was also a small and independent platform once. Are we supposed to “forge hop” (as in “distro hop”) all the time, migrate from the most non-shitty hoster to the next? That can’t be the solution.
@prologic Huh, okay, that’s surprising to me. I had thought that Gitea would be easy enough for people to use. I mean, it even has the “Sign in with GitHub” button. 🤔 And it’s not like Gitea is some arcane/archaic tool like Bugzilla, which is just horrible to use.

So … what’s stopping people?

> I'm not sure what else we can do? I'm nNOT moving back to Github, ever.

Same. There are alternatives like https://codeberg.org/ now, but does that really help? GitHub was also a small and independent platform once. Are we supposed to “forge hop” (as in “distro hop”) all the time, migrate from the most non-shitty hoster to the next? That can’t be the solution.
@prologic Huh, okay, that’s surprising to me. I had thought that Gitea would be easy enough for people to use. I mean, it even has the “Sign in with GitHub” button. 🤔 And it’s not like Gitea is some arcane/archaic tool like Bugzilla, which is just horrible to use.

So … what’s stopping people?

> I'm not sure what else we can do? I'm nNOT moving back to Github, ever.

Same. There are alternatives like https://codeberg.org/ now, but does that really help? GitHub was also a small and independent platform once. Are we supposed to “forge hop” (as in “distro hop”) all the time, migrate from the most non-shitty hoster to the next? That can’t be the solution.
@prologic Huh, okay, that’s surprising to me. I had thought that Gitea would be easy enough for people to use. I mean, it even has the “Sign in with GitHub” button. 🤔 And it’s not like Gitea is some arcane/archaic tool like Bugzilla, which is just horrible to use.

So … what’s stopping people?

> I'm not sure what else we can do? I'm nNOT moving back to Github, ever.

Same. There are alternatives like https://codeberg.org/ now, but does that really help? GitHub was also a small and independent platform once. Are we supposed to “forge hop” (as in “distro hop”) all the time, migrate from the most non-shitty hoster to the next? That can’t be the solution.
@prologic Someone shot at Trump: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd1d31jeyzlo
@prologic Someone shot at Trump: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd1d31jeyzlo
@prologic Someone shot at Trump: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd1d31jeyzlo
@prologic Someone shot at Trump: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd1d31jeyzlo