@stigatle _@yarn.stigatle.no_ Got a sample log/traceback? 🤔 ⌘ Read more
@stigatle _@yarn.stigatle.no_ Got a sample log/traceback? 🤔 ⌘ Read more
yarnd, tt, jenny, twtr and other c ...👋 Q: How do we feel about forking the Twtxt spec into what we love and use today in Yarn.social in
yarnd, tt, jenny, twtr and other clients? 🤔 Thinking about (and talking with @xuu _@txt.sour.is_ on IRC) about the possibility of rewriting a completely new spec (no extensions). Proposed name yarn.txt or “ ... ⌘ Read more
I generally don’t buy into hype myself anyway, didn’t buy into the “Cloud” hype, nor the “Cryptocurrency” hype, and I’m sure as hell not buying into the so-called “AI” hype. Wake me up when I can run this shit™ on my own GPU-powered machines 🤣 – As a vision impaired person, the only use-case I’ve found that’s remotely useful for me is to summarize text. Problem though? I’m not going to use O ... ⌘ Read more
@abucci _@anthony.buc.ci_ aye aye 👌 ⌘ Read more
yarnd does this, and has done for quite some time, though ...@xuu _@txt.sour.is_ That’s hilarious that you mention content-negotiation as
yarnd does this, and has done for quite some time, though I suspect it achieves nothing 🤣 (it does for AP, Twtxt, etc, though…) – The original spec didn’t even mention content-types or any of the sort, so I very much doubt any older ... ⌘ Read more
@stigatle _@yarn.stigatle.no_ Stacktrace please? ⌘ Read more
@funbreaker The original spec was very lax on specifics and details. I guess it was never intended to be used as a decentralized social media ecosystem 😆 Which has been made quite clear by the few that are strongly outspoken and don’t want this. 🤦♂️ and/or unsupportive of any other uses (despite the open spec and “fork me” badge 🤣) ⌘ Read more
@funbreaker Looks legit 👌 ⌘ Read more
One of the motivating re ...
@shreyan I am actually seriously considering forking the spec and putting this to the community.
One of the motivating reasons to do this (besides to avoid the continued hostility) is we don’t share the same goals or visions.
Decentralized microBlogging is for all (not just retro enthusiasts and hackers) ⌘ Read more
@shreyan It honestly means nothing. It’s like 12-factor apps 😆 ⌘ Read more
@lyse _@lyse.isobeef.org_ Nice! 👌 What species of bird is that? Crow or Raven? ⌘ Read more
Nice 👌 ⌘ Read more
https:// if no scheme was provided by the user.@stigatle _@yarn.stigatle.no_ I’m yhe movile app we default to
https:// if no scheme was provided by the user. ⌘ Read more
@xuu _@txt.sour.is_ Devils advocate: what value would be really be providing here? Would, for example @lyse _@lyse.isobeef.org_ and/or [@movq _@www.uninformativ.de_](https://twtxt.net/external?uri=https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt.tx ... ⌘ Read more
@funbreaker Why not 🤗 ⌘ Read more
@lyse _@lyse.isobeef.org_ Yeah we can do someyhing similar for the crawler 👌 ⌘ Read more
He is following an archived feed for some reason 😆 ⌘ Read more
@lyse _@lyse.isobeef.org_ Yup this is on you 😆 ⌘ Read more
@screem _@yarn.yarnpods.com_ Just sign it out 😆 ⌘ Read more
@movq _@www.uninformativ.de_ Wow 😳 That is quite magical 🙇♂️ ⌘ Read more
Is there a bug in yarnd here? ⌘ Read more
@shreyan I love where you’re going with this 😆 ⌘ Read more
'You Just Lied': Elon Musk Slaughters BBC Reporter In Live Interview - YouTube
As much as I don’t hold a very high opinion of Elon Musk (and to be fair I don’t actually know him all that well, only what I’ve read about him and observed), this particular video however is quite hilarious. This (ignoring the Twitter™ nonsense) is hilariously funny ... ⌘ Read more
RackMac mini 1U Rack Enclosure for Mac mini - Sonnet – If you’re ever in need of rack-mounting up a pair of Apple™ Mac Mini(s), these look pretty cool 👌 ⌘ Read more
@marado \\+\\+ 💯 ⌘ Read more
@drewdevault _@fosstodon.org_ Fine by me 👌 ⌘ Read more
Really getting quite tired of all this Kubernetes Cloud Native projects in my GitHub feed 🤦♂️ ⌘ Read more
🤣🤣🤣 ⌘ Read more
@stigatle _@yarn.stigatle.no_ That is simply gorgeous! 👌 😍 ⌘ Read more
Yeah the argument is pretty flawed when authors can pretty much write whatever content they like including gibberish, XML, HTML or even Binary 😆 ⌘ Read more
Yeah remember that the extensions we built as a community didn’t come out of thin air 😆 We did our research and studied the ecosystem that was 👌 ⌘ Read more
@stigatle _@yarn.stigatle.no_ No no it’s not 🤦♂️ ⌘ Read more
@stigatle _@yarn.stigatle.no_ I posted an alternative link here ⌘ Read more
Good call 😆 ⌘ Read more
I also agree that buckket's twtzt dlient makes a terrible Yarn client -- ...
@shreyan _@twtxt.net_ Thanks for your encouraging words 🤗
I also agree that buckket’s twtzt dlient makes a terrible Yarn client – I would even go so far as to say it’s not very well maintained either as it has been broken for some time 😢
Yes we can raise a PR against the original reference client – But I’m not convinced it’ll get accepted 😢 ⌘ Read more
@xuu _@txt.sour.is_ Yeah I agree changing or detracting from the underlying Twtxt format we use would ruin our other hard work 😢 Like Salty.IM 👌 ⌘ Read more
@xuu _@txt.sour.is_ Yeah this is a great idea👌 I was just thinking of the storage format and what clients would fetch as a resource 🤔 ⌘ Read more
--? I sometimes try to separate different paragraphs or points with a -- instead of a ...@marado Ahh good point, or with a
--? I sometimes try to separate different paragraphs or points with a -- instead of a new line / paragraph break. I don’t mind either way, but will amend the PR later when I get back from the tournament, unless you’d like to make the suggested change and I’ll just accept it? 🙏 ⌘ Read more
Competing in a handicap (Easter handicap tournament) table-tennis 🏓 today 😅 I _hope_ I do better than last year’s Xmas handicap 🤣 ⌘ Read more
here’s the 1-line patch: https://github.com/buckket/twtxt/compare/master…prologic:twtxt-1:patch-1 (untested) ⌘ Read more
Also whilst I understand the appeal ...
But as you say, if you don’t find it useful, don’t like it, or whatever, simply don’t follow it.
Also whilst I understand the appeal of
curl url | less to read a feed, I find this a terrible user experience in the first place, yes it should be possible to use UNIX text manipulation tools for feeds, which is why using Twtxt as the “spec” and “transport” of the content is so ideal. – Should ... ⌘ Read more
twtxt client ...@marado _@twtxt.net_ Yup I completely agree. 💯 @lyse _@lyse.isobeef.org_ has significant bug fixes for buckket’s original
twtxt client, including support for multi-lines ( \\u2028), I suppose anyone (even I) could put up a PR that addresses that, it’s a trivial 1-line patch.As f ... ⌘ Read more
> Recently (research and documentation begun in 2007) I have had sufficient experience with a variety of different types of tr ...
Hmmm
> Recently (research and documentation begun in 2007) I have had sufficient experience with a variety of different types of trolls on the internet (in communities, email lists, wikis, and news stories) that it seemed useful to document, categorize, classify, and provide methods for dealing with each type, towards the goal of identifying and defeating trolls as quickly as possible in th ... ⌘ Read more
yarn.txt feed and a stripped-down and limited twtxt.txt feed. But I am 98% convinced this wouldn' ...Son in theory we _could_ have a
yarn.txt feed and a stripped-down and limited twtxt.txt feed. But I am 98% convinced this wouldn’t solve any of the perceived problems, actually I’m 100% certain. Mostly because there are no offered solutions, no actionable feedback, no contributions, just complains and arguments. ⌘ Read more
yarnd such that it:1. produced a
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[@marado](https://twtxt.net/user/marado/) See, even if we (for example) did something to change the behaviour of yarndit:
1. produced atwtxt.txt feed that stripped \\u2028ne.
2. converted Markdown to “plain text”
3. limited posts to 140 characters
Would this make few that scream and shout the loudest happier that Yarn is more _properly_ using T ... ⌘ [Read more](https://twtxt.net/twt/v6eetra)
The problem of course is the position this forces me in to, with all of this “nonsense”, means you end up having so many different competing specs and protocols that you end up in exactly the position we’re in now with “chat”:
where none of them work with one another and there’s no effective bridging, data or identity portability. ⌘ Read more
Here’s an alternative link: https://gist.github.com/prologic/16a88f1ebbd3d13e4cc6352615919b87 ⌘ Read more
@marado Yeah it would be possible to have “bridges” just like I _think_ we should have a bridge finally for Twtxt<->ActivityPub. The motivation behind this proposal/idea is to get away from the trolls and hostility of Twtxt. Its of course too late to change what we did in the past (nearly getting on 3 years now), but trying to find ways to deal with this goi ... ⌘ Read more
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@marado Working for me?
=\\> https://files.mills.io/download/Twtxt%20IRC%20Logs%202023-04-14.md ⌘ Read more
tantek / TrollTaxonomy ⌘ Read more
icon I guess or image.Blah I forgot Avatar, but that _could_ be
icon I guess or image. ⌘ Read more
n
{
"name": "prologic",
"desc": "\\"Problems are Solved by Method\\" 🇦🇺👨� ...**
An example feed would look like this:
{
"name": "prologic",
"desc": "\\"Problems are Solved by Method\\" 🇦🇺👨💻👨🦯🏹♔ 🏓⚯ 👨👩👧👧🛥 -- James Mills (operator of twtxt.net / creator of Yarn.social 🧶)",
"key": "kex17m00vqjduqlf6j5xcvtpyhk2zg3shv2x8r5qzyancjlhgl4ytj8slvt7h0",
"links": [ { "title": "My CV", "href": "https://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au/" ... ⌘ [Read more](https://twtxt.net/twt/zjxjpua)
> If we were to decide to write a new spec/protocol, what would it look like?
Her ...
💡 Quick ‘n Dirty prototype Yarn.social protocol/spec:
> If we were to decide to write a new spec/protocol, what would it look like?
Here’s my rough draft ( _back of paper napkin idea_):
- Feeds are JSON file(s) fetchable by standard HTTP clients over TLS
- WebFinger is used at the root of a user’s domain (or multi-user) lookup. e.g:
prologic@mills.io -\\> https://yarn.mills.io/~prologi ... ⌘ [Read more](https://twtxt.net/twt/oyi5iua)
I found myself wanting to upload a Markdown document (IRC Logs) today to my pod. This has come up as a feature request before, should we do this soon™? 🤔 Would anyone else find it useful to upload and link to other types of files besides “multimedia”? 🤔 ⌘ Read more
Here you go: https://files.mills.io/download/Twtxt%20IRC%20Logs%202023-04-14.md ⌘ Read more
Arggg “Forbidden” 🤦♂️ ⌘ Read more
@stigatle _@yarn.stigatle.no_ Does this work? 🤔 https://www.irccloud.com/log-export/160242/irccloud-export-110340-2023-04-16-09-41-27.zip ⌘ Read more
@stigatle _@yarn.stigatle.no_ I’ll take a copy of the conversations over the last few days in the #twtxt ITC channel and link here 👌 ⌘ Read more
@stigatle _@yarn.stigatle.no_ Just test against my pod 👌 ⌘ Read more
@marado _@twtxt.net_ I agree 💯 ⌘ Read more
Given the continued hostility of jam6 and buckket over Yarn’a use of Twtxt (even after several years! 😱) I am continuing to face hard decisions.
I am not sure what to do about this. 🤔 I am quite confident that the hostility and sentiment is not held by all Twtxt users past and present 😢
This is a case of a few upset purists who prefer to mock, shame and behave passive aggressively instead of ... ⌘ Read more
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Also character handling for password might be problematic ☝️ The code needs to handle and allow anything and everything, as yarnd doesn’t shit a shit what you type for your password 😅 ⌘ [Read more](https://twtxt.net/twt/nydlheq)
https://twtxt.net -- I'm also worried that if you have "Skip SSL verification" in your code (from reading @lyse's comme ...Can you try
https://twtxt.net – I’m also worried that if you have “Skip SSL verification” in your code (from reading @lyse _@lyse.isobeef.org_’s comments) that things will fail on my pod as I’m pretty sure Cloudflare will chuck a hissy fit at you 🤣 ⌘ Read more
It is only until after that company has a breach, with harm caused to its end-users does the company do anything about it. I’m not really convinced that’s happening either, because the current laws scream and cry out “OMG! 😱 We need to fix the Open Source supply chain!” by companies that refuse to take any financial liability for freely using other people’s hard work that they didn’t get ... ⌘ Read more
One of the biggest problems I have with the currently proposed EU laws is that there is no distinction being made between “Free, non-Paid, Open Source” vs. “Commercial Software Products built from Open Source”.
I find the current situation highlights the fact that large corporations build Paid-for products and services to consumers and makes Millions or Billions of $ £ € often without a ... ⌘ Read more
@stigatle _@yarn.stigatle.no_ Have a look at the JavaScript for yarnd 👌 ⌘ Read more
Also the car was never built and published freely in the open for all to see and study. There was and are large profitable companies behind these dangerous things. ⌘ Read more
Key point here: a line has to be drawn.
Right now the EU proposed laws don't ...
Fair point (although extreme example to show it 😆)
Key point here: a line has to be drawn.
Right now the EU proposed laws don’t distinguish between dangerous software and non-dangerous nor free lowly lone non-paid developer vs. commercial company that profits from open source and has no liability despite making millions or billions. ⌘ Read more
I can see companies taking out liability insurance for their software teams that contribute to open source, but a lowly non-paid developer that writes some open source library or software on his own? ⌘ Read more
The question is to what extent should lowly free time non-paid open source ...
Yes this is true and I thought of this too in my analogy.
The question is to what extent should lowly free time non-paid open source developers be liable vs. say large corporations that commercially benefit and profit from open source and don’t contribute a dime back? ⌘ Read more
Exaxrly! ⌘ Read more
@stigatle _@yarn.stigatle.no_ Haven’t you got media uploads working yet? 🤔 ⌘ Read more
@stigatle _@yarn.stigatle.no_ Nice! 👌 Especially on the dog fooding l 🤗 ⌘ Read more
@stigatle _@yarn.stigatle.no_ Fine by me 😆 ⌘ Read more
@stigatle _@yarn.stigatle.no_ It’s early evening over here and we went the day at a water park which was nice 👌 ⌘ Read more
Reading: https://www2.deloitte.com/us/en/blog/deloitte-on-cloud-blog/2023/devops-SRE-capability-model-for-these-complementary-roles.html
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I rally find this rhetoric quite counter productive 😢
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Finally, like the Eclipse suggests, if the new proposed EU laws would go ahead, I too as an open source developer would also have to either a) Put up a notice stating that none of my software, libraires, tools can be used within the EU or b) Simply go closed source. – This would be extremely sad 😢 and honestly at that point I would question even continuing to be a software developer at all. ⌘ Read more
The problem and difference though is that open source is produced, published and free at no cost to the consumer. I also find the situation a bit weird from a legal standpoint as I don’t understand how the CRA and CLA can possibly override open source licenses that are also legal documents and a contract between the open source author(s) and consumers of that open source software/library/wha ... ⌘ Read more
@marado I see. Thanks, read that article and it makes the problem a bit clear, especially on the liability issue. So, it seems EU lawmakers are trying to fix an economical problem by introducing a new set of laws that regulate a large part of the software industry (open source) that has effectively zero revenue?! This seems to be a bit counter intuitive to m ... ⌘ Read more
Heading out to a water park today 😆 Last chance for the girls to have some fun before school starts back up next week 😉 ⌘ Read more
@marado _@twtxt.net_ Do you mind highlighting what the CRA and CLA are proposing that puts open source and individual open source authors at risk? ⌘ Read more
@stigatle _@yarn.stigatle.no_ Yay weekend! 🥳 ⌘ Read more
Ita not very common nowadays 😆**
@abucci _@anthony.buc.ci_ That’s the thing about common sense.
Ita not very common nowadays 😆 ⌘ Read more
@abucci _@anthony.buc.ci_ Wow! 😳 ⌘ Read more
Do one for micro services next! 🤣 ⌘ Read more
I honestly think you’ll end up reinventing the same ideas 😆 ⌘ Read more
@abucci _@anthony.buc.ci_ Hahaha this is the second report of this happening🤣🤦♂️ ⌘ Read more
@xuu _@txt.sour.is_ Bahahahahaha 🤣 Soo goood! 😅 ⌘ Read more
@hacker-news-newest _@feeds.twtxt.net_ This is insanely cool 🤣 ⌘ Read more
@abucci _@anthony.buc.ci_ Ahh yeah, you’re right. I have one of those X-something page long CV(s) somewhere, but I’ve given up trying to maintain it 😅 ⌘ Read more
@adi Why not write a new CLI? Git nowadays is just an underlying storage format and library. Consider using jesseduffield/lazygit: simple terminal UI for git commands for example. ⌘ Read more
@movq _@www.uninformativ.de_ Oh good lordie lord 🤦♂️ ⌘ Read more
> Better Nate than lever!
Is that the punchline?! 🤔**
@movq _@www.uninformativ.de_ Hmmm
> Better Nate than lever!
Is that the punchline?! 🤔 ⌘ Read more
@movq _@www.uninformativ.de_ Damnit! Please tell me what was it 🤣 ⌘ Read more
@darch This is true! ⌘ Read more
What about the Pocket C.H.I.P?
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@movq _@www.uninformativ.de_ I honestly tried to read this last night, but it was sooo long, got bored in the end, scrolled to the bottom and didn’t get the punchline. 😱🤦♂️ ⌘ Read more
They are the same thing. Weird 😆 Where is your CS/Reaume? Maybe I can take a look at it and give you some feedback? ⌘ Read more
@adi What’s wrong with Git? ⌘ Read more