> To me it appeared that the failed attempts to ban NPD in the past actually helped them gain more supporters.
What makes AfD stronger *for sure* is just going “lol nah we’re not even going to try”:
https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/afd-verbot-antrag-100.html
If they don’t try, then it means that “it can’t be that bad, it’s just a normal party”, right? 😡
> To me it appeared that the failed attempts to ban NPD in the past actually helped them gain more supporters.
What makes AfD stronger *for sure* is just going “lol nah we’re not even going to try”:
https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/afd-verbot-antrag-100.html
If they don’t try, then it means that “it can’t be that bad, it’s just a normal party”, right? 😡
> To me it appeared that the failed attempts to ban NPD in the past actually helped them gain more supporters.
What makes AfD stronger *for sure* is just going “lol nah we’re not even going to try”:
https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/afd-verbot-antrag-100.html
If they don’t try, then it means that “it can’t be that bad, it’s just a normal party”, right? 😡
> The big established parties are all bad traitors. I blame them and their actions to help raise AfD. They just [don’t?] give a fuck about the ordinary people, they're only concerned about their private gain and power.
To a large degree, yes. But I think the media is also equally at fault. There was absolutely no reason to invite AfD people to *every* event and let them talk. This has been going on for over 10 years. When we give them a stage to spread their hate, are we really surprised that hate spreads … ?
I don’t know the answers to this desaster. I’m beginning to think that people literally just want an outlet for their frustration, nothing more. It’s not about what particular parties actually plan to do. At least I think this applies to people in their 30ies and 40ies.
> The big established parties are all bad traitors. I blame them and their actions to help raise AfD. They just [don’t?] give a fuck about the ordinary people, they're only concerned about their private gain and power.
To a large degree, yes. But I think the media is also equally at fault. There was absolutely no reason to invite AfD people to *every* event and let them talk. This has been going on for over 10 years. When we give them a stage to spread their hate, are we really surprised that hate spreads … ?
I don’t know the answers to this desaster. I’m beginning to think that people literally just want an outlet for their frustration, nothing more. It’s not about what particular parties actually plan to do. At least I think this applies to people in their 30ies and 40ies.
> The big established parties are all bad traitors. I blame them and their actions to help raise AfD. They just \n give a fuck about the ordinary people, they're only concerned about their private gain and power.
To a large degree, yes. But I think the media is also equally at fault. There was absolutely no reason to invite AfD people to *every* event and let them talk. This has been going on for over 10 years. When we give them a stage to spread their hate, are we really surprised that hate spreads … ?
I don’t know the answers to this desaster. I’m beginning to think that people literally just want an outlet for their frustration, nothing more. It’s not about what particular parties actually plan to do. At least I think this applies to people in their 30ies and 40ies.

East Germany is dominated by AfD. Bavaria is dominated by CSU (it’s always been that way, but this is still a conservative/right party). Black is CDU, the other conservative/right party.
The guy who’s probably going to be chancellor recently insulted the millions of people who did demonstrations for peace/anti-right. “Idiots”, “they’re nuts”, stuff like that. This was *before* the election. He already earned the nickname “Mini Trump”.
Both the right and the left got more votes this time, but the left only gained 3.87 percentage points while the right (CDU/CSU + AfD) gained 14.72:

The Green party lost, SPD (“mid-left”) lost massively (worst result in their history). FDP also lost. These three were the previous government.
This isn’t looking good at all, especially when you think about what’s going to happen in the next 4 years. What will CDU (the winner) do? Will they be able to “turn the ship around”? Highly unlikely. They are responsible for the current situation (in large parts). They will continue to do business as usual. They will do anything *but* help poor/ordinary people. This means that AfD will only get *stronger* over the next 4 years.
Our only hope would be to ban AfD altogether. So far, nobody but non-profit organizations is willing to do that (for unknown reasons).
I don’t even know if banning the AfD would help (but it’s probably our best/only option). AfD politicians are nothing but spiteful, hateful, angry, similar to Trump/MAGA. If you’ve seen these people talk and *still* vote for them, then you must be absolutely filled with rage and hatred. Very concerning.
Correct me if I’m wrong, @lyse, @arne, @johanbove.

East Germany is dominated by AfD. Bavaria is dominated by CSU (it’s always been that way, but this is still a conservative/right party). Black is CDU, the other conservative/right party.
The guy who’s probably going to be chancellor recently insulted the millions of people who did demonstrations for peace/anti-right. “Idiots”, “they’re nuts”, stuff like that. This was *before* the election. He already earned the nickname “Mini Trump”.
Both the right and the left got more votes this time, but the left only gained 3.87 percentage points while the right (CDU/CSU + AfD) gained 14.72:

The Green party lost, SPD (“mid-left”) lost massively (worst result in their history). FDP also lost. These three were the previous government.
This isn’t looking good at all, especially when you think about what’s going to happen in the next 4 years. What will CDU (the winner) do? Will they be able to “turn the ship around”? Highly unlikely. They are responsible for the current situation (in large parts). They will continue to do business as usual. They will do anything *but* help poor/ordinary people. This means that AfD will only get *stronger* over the next 4 years.
Our only hope would be to ban AfD altogether. So far, nobody but non-profit organizations is willing to do that (for unknown reasons).
I don’t even know if banning the AfD would help (but it’s probably our best/only option). AfD politicians are nothing but spiteful, hateful, angry, similar to Trump/MAGA. If you’ve seen these people talk and *still* vote for them, then you must be absolutely filled with rage and hatred. Very concerning.
Correct me if I’m wrong, @lyse, @arne, @johanbove.

East Germany is dominated by AfD. Bavaria is dominated by CSU (it’s always been that way, but this is still a conservative/right party). Black is CDU, the other conservative/right party.
The guy who’s probably going to be chancellor recently insulted the millions of people who did demonstrations for peace/anti-right. “Idiots”, “they’re nuts”, stuff like that. This was *before* the election. He already earned the nickname “Mini Trump”.
Both the right and the left got more votes this time, but the left only gained 3.87 percentage points while the right (CDU/CSU + AfD) gained 14.72:

The Green party lost, SPD (“mid-left”) lost massively (worst result in their history). FDP also lost. These three were the previous government.
This isn’t looking good at all, especially when you think about what’s going to happen in the next 4 years. What will CDU (the winner) do? Will they be able to “turn the ship around”? Highly unlikely. They are responsible for the current situation (in large parts). They will continue to do business as usual. They will do anything *but* help poor/ordinary people. This means that AfD will only get *stronger* over the next 4 years.
Our only hope would be to ban AfD altogether. So far, nobody but non-profit organizations is willing to do that (for unknown reasons).
I don’t even know if banning the AfD would help (but it’s probably our best/only option). AfD politicians are nothing but spiteful, hateful, angry, similar to Trump/MAGA. If you’ve seen these people talk and *still* vote for them, then you must be absolutely filled with rage and hatred. Very concerning.
Correct me if I’m wrong, @lyse, @arne, @johanbove.
I *could* go ahead and just use the VPS for the IP, i.e. forward all traffic through Wireguard to a box here at home. Big downside is that the network connection would be even slower than it already is and my ISP breaks down all the time for a few minutes … it’s just bad overall and much easier/better to rent a VPS. 🫤
I *could* go ahead and just use the VPS for the IP, i.e. forward all traffic through Wireguard to a box here at home. Big downside is that the network connection would be even slower than it already is and my ISP breaks down all the time for a few minutes … it’s just bad overall and much easier/better to rent a VPS. 🫤
I *could* go ahead and just use the VPS for the IP, i.e. forward all traffic through Wireguard to a box here at home. Big downside is that the network connection would be even slower than it already is and my ISP breaks down all the time for a few minutes … it’s just bad overall and much easier/better to rent a VPS. 🫤
It sounds like fun, though. Reminds me of toying around with digital calculators in the 90ies. 😃
It sounds like fun, though. Reminds me of toying around with digital calculators in the 90ies. 😃
It sounds like fun, though. Reminds me of toying around with digital calculators in the 90ies. 😃
It sounds like fun, though. Reminds me of toying around with digital calculators in the 90ies. 😃
I am so, so, so fed up with the arrogance of people in tech. People think they know everything. Everything is easy and trivial. “Told you so!”, everywhere you look. And this bloody condescending tone, all the time. When I ask for an opinion, I don’t want to get a “well, duh, idiot”. For fuck’s sake.
It’s nothing new, it’s always been like that. Which makes it even worse.
This really makes me not want to work in this field anymore.
I am so, so, so fed up with the arrogance of people in tech. People think they know everything. Everything is easy and trivial. “Told you so!”, everywhere you look. And this bloody condescending tone, all the time. When I ask for an opinion, I don’t want to get a “well, duh, idiot”. For fuck’s sake.
It’s nothing new, it’s always been like that. Which makes it even worse.
This really makes me not want to work in this field anymore.
I am so, so, so fed up with the arrogance of people in tech. People think they know everything. Everything is easy and trivial. “Told you so!”, everywhere you look. And this bloody condescending tone, all the time. When I ask for an opinion, I don’t want to get a “well, duh, idiot”. For fuck’s sake.
It’s nothing new, it’s always been like that. Which makes it even worse.
This really makes me not want to work in this field anymore.
I am so, so, so fed up with the arrogance of people in tech. People think they know everything. Everything is easy and trivial. “Told you so!”, everywhere you look. And this bloody condescending tone, all the time. When I ask for an opinion, I don’t want to get a “well, duh, idiot”. For fuck’s sake.
It’s nothing new, it’s always been like that. Which makes it even worse.
This really makes me not want to work in this field anymore.