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@mutefall Oh! Yes please! I'd like to take a look at that π Did you also manage to get Let's Encrypt working in your cluster in some _sane_ way? π€
@mutefall Oh! Yes please! I'd like to take a look at that π Did you also manage to get Let's Encrypt working in your cluster in some _sane_ way? π€
@mutefall That reminds me... I did promise you some Swarm stacks... I'll try to get those into swarm-stacks π
@mutefall That reminds me... I did promise you some Swarm stacks... I'll try to get those into swarm-stacks π
@mutefall I prefer Peer Calls myself ,and I _normally_ regularly hold a Yarn.social video conf (anyone is welcome!) late at night (AEST) on Saturdays. I normally post the link on Yarn.social of course hours ahead of time (because Yarn.social is by design slow π
)
@mutefall I prefer Peer Calls myself ,and I _normally_ regularly hold a Yarn.social video conf (anyone is welcome!) late at night (AEST) on Saturdays. I normally post the link on Yarn.social of course hours ahead of time (because Yarn.social is by design slow π
)
@mckinley Honestly, I appreciate your offer, but I've given up on this. I've spent ~2hrs on this already looking at ejabberd, got it running and got Beagle-IM to connect to it. Then realised how _fucking_ hard it's going to be to configure ejabberd properly in production. I've looked into Prosody which @jan6 on IRC also mentioned, but getting that working properly in my infra is also going to be "too hard". They "claim" to support Let's Encrypt certificates for example, but expect you to run certbert on a server somewhere π€¦ββοΈ -- I give up π’~
@mckinley Honestly, I appreciate your offer, but I've given up on this. I've spent ~2hrs on this already looking at ejabberd, got it running and got Beagle-IM to connect to it. Then realised how _fucking_ hard it's going to be to configure ejabberd properly in production. I've looked into Prosody which @jan6 on IRC also mentioned, but getting that working properly in my infra is also going to be "too hard". They "claim" to support Let's Encrypt certificates for example, but expect you to run certbert on a server somewhere π€¦ββοΈ -- I give up π’~
@mckinley Uggh I remember this (BOST) back in the 'ol days when XMPP was "cool" π
/me sigh -- It's still all too complicated.
@mckinley Uggh I remember this (BOST) back in the 'ol days when XMPP was "cool" π
/me sigh -- It's still all too complicated.
Reminded me of this classic:
Requirements Engineering
Reminded me of this classic:
Requirements Engineering
@carsten OMG I finally watched this!!! So freak'n hilarious! π
@carsten OMG I finally watched this!!! So freak'n hilarious! π
@novaburst _sigh_ Why couldn't XMPP have used the HTTP transport π’
@novaburst _sigh_ Why couldn't XMPP have used the HTTP transport π’
@novaburst Does it still requires all these silly ports to be open in my firewall? π€
@novaburst Does it still requires all these silly ports to be open in my firewall? π€
@cvshumake Chris bdudy! π Hello! How have you been?
Update your Avatar π
@cvshumake Chris bdudy! π Hello! How have you been?
Update your Avatar π
I can't do XMPP. I just can't. It's so fucking complicated, uses a bazillion ports I have to punch into my firewall and all kinds of stupid bits of configuration that you really don't give two shits about for a small instance.
Sorry XMPP enthusiasts, I just can't even. π€¦ββοΈ
Too hardβ’
I can't do XMPP. I just can't. It's so fucking complicated, uses a bazillion ports I have to punch into my firewall and all kinds of stupid bits of configuration that you really don't give two shits about for a small instance.
Sorry XMPP enthusiasts, I just can't even. π€¦ββοΈ
Too hardβ’
Now we just need some nice Russians to setup Yarn.social pods π
Now we just need some nice Russians to setup Yarn.social pods π
Check out sole of the more modern clients π
Check out sole of the more modern clients π
@justamoment There is someone that's working on an Android app, I just don't recall whoo. You _might_ be interested in using that and helping test it? I _think_ you'd be better of going manual by the sounds of it, hopefully the documentation for doing so is pretty straight forward https://yarn.social#manually π
@justamoment There is someone that's working on an Android app, I just don't recall whoo. You _might_ be interested in using that and helping test it? I _think_ you'd be better of going manual by the sounds of it, hopefully the documentation for doing so is pretty straight forward https://yarn.social#manually π
@screem Looks pretty good mate π
@screem Looks pretty good mate π
@justamoment stay as long as you like! Or don't, whatever, it's up to you or spin up your own pod or host your own feed manually π€
Either way big welcome to Yarn.social π₯³
@justamoment stay as long as you like! Or don't, whatever, it's up to you or spin up your own pod or host your own feed manually π€
Either way big welcome to Yarn.social π₯³
@ullarah Yes absolutely! Let's get those out of the way π€ I don't like having long-running WIP PR(s) lying around if we can help it π
@ullarah Yes absolutely! Let's get those out of the way π€ I don't like having long-running WIP PR(s) lying around if we can help it π
@ullarah No, what we said was, "code freeze" right? π
But yeah let's work on this tonight! π€
We _should_ define a list of things we want to polish up and finish off before we unfreeze and roll yarnd v0.14 finally. Wanna help define this? @david you too? π€ (anyone else?)
@ullarah No, what we said was, "code freeze" right? π
But yeah let's work on this tonight! π€
We _should_ define a list of things we want to polish up and finish off before we unfreeze and roll yarnd v0.14 finally. Wanna help define this? @david you too? π€ (anyone else?)
@screem
> @prologic Iβd be keen to get your input on my website when Iβm done for accessibility, if thatβs ok.
Of course! π
@screem
> @prologic Iβd be keen to get your input on my website when Iβm done for accessibility, if thatβs ok.
Of course! π
@ionores Is there a way to search this table / dataset ? π€ I'm kind of curious to know:
- Which is the most green
- Which is the most red
π
@ionores Is there a way to search this table / dataset ? π€ I'm kind of curious to know:
- Which is the most green
- Which is the most red
π
does the US make their own rocket engines? π€SpaceX / Elon Musk
does the US make their own rocket engines? π€SpaceX / Elon Musk
@caesar I've never used WhatsApps, so I can't really comment on any specifics, only what I knew (_at one point_) and observe (_from Meta's behaviour_). I try to encourage all my friends, colleagues and acquaintances to never use WhatsApps and get off it and use Signal instead.
One of the difficulties is quite simple this; If a piece of software that millions, hell even billions rely on is closed source, how can you really trust it? Unlike Signal that has been audited (both the spec and the app's source code), trusting a messaging app/service of any kind from a company whose business it is to know everything about you and sell that information to advertisers, is, a "fools errand".
Contrast this to Apple's iMessages, a company that is NOT in the business
of collecting information about you or selling it to advertisers. You _can_
largely trust iMessages the app and service to a greater degree, I say greater
because it's not open source so you have to trust Apple's word here that the
contents of the messages are in fact e2e encrypted and not sent or stored in
the clear.
Anyway... </rant> -- Trust is hardβ’
> Don't trust "FREE" services from a company whose business model is Advertising.
@caesar I've never used WhatsApps, so I can't really comment on any specifics, only what I knew (_at one point_) and observe (_from Meta's behaviour_). I try to encourage all my friends, colleagues and acquaintances to never use WhatsApps and get off it and use Signal instead.
One of the difficulties is quite simple this; If a piece of software that millions, hell even billions rely on is closed source, how can you really trust it? Unlike Signal that has been audited (both the spec and the app's source code), trusting a messaging app/service of any kind from a company whose business it is to know everything about you and sell that information to advertisers, is, a "fools errand".
Contrast this to Apple's iMessages, a company that is NOT in the business
of collecting information about you or selling it to advertisers. You _can_
largely trust iMessages the app and service to a greater degree, I say greater
because it's not open source so you have to trust Apple's word here that the
contents of the messages are in fact e2e encrypted and not sent or stored in
the clear.
Anyway... </rant> -- Trust is hardβ’
> Don't trust "FREE" services from a company whose business model is Advertising.
@rebelljoe Speaking of Websites, CVs, Gemini capsules, Gopher holes, Github profiles and all sorts of things you _might_ want to link from your Yarn.social profile -- We _should_ get Links working @ullarah π
@rebelljoe Speaking of Websites, CVs, Gemini capsules, Gopher holes, Github profiles and all sorts of things you _might_ want to link from your Yarn.social profile -- We _should_ get Links working @ullarah π
@rebelljoe That's might good of you Sir! πββοΈ I _wish_ there were more people like you π€
@rebelljoe That's might good of you Sir! πββοΈ I _wish_ there were more people like you π€
When I used to work there (Facebook Inc.) they had only recently purchased WhatsApp. At the time it was basically a "pick it all up" and "place over here". WhatsApp had their own locked offices on campus, and their own DataCenter space.
They spent the next few years integrating with the rest of the Facebook ecosystem, now they are just a part of the Facebook infrastructure, data, graph database and family of apps.
You read into what what you will π
When I used to work there (Facebook Inc.) they had only recently purchased WhatsApp. At the time it was basically a "pick it all up" and "place over here". WhatsApp had their own locked offices on campus, and their own DataCenter space.
They spent the next few years integrating with the rest of the Facebook ecosystem, now they are just a part of the Facebook infrastructure, data, graph database and family of apps.
You read into what what you will π
@caesar You are right about WhatsApp using the same Signal protocol. However it is questionable at best as to whether it is implemented strictly as per the stated specification.
On the subject of Metadata however, this is not quite right. Signal itself (https://signal.org) does not store or collect any Metadata about you or who you interact with whatsoever. They go out of their way _quite a lot_ to also e2e encrypt this data too. You can read about it on their blog posts.
Bottomline is; try really hard not to trust WhatsAppa (from Facebook) π
@caesar You are right about WhatsApp using the same Signal protocol. However it is questionable at best as to whether it is implemented strictly as per the stated specification.
On the subject of Metadata however, this is not quite right. Signal itself (https://signal.org) does not store or collect any Metadata about you or who you interact with whatsoever. They go out of their way _quite a lot_ to also e2e encrypt this data too. You can read about it on their blog posts.
Bottomline is; try really hard not to trust WhatsAppa (from Facebook) π
Hey @darch -- I emailed Aral some time ago (18th Feb) and so far I've gotten no response. What about you? π€
Hey @darch -- I emailed Aral some time ago (18th Feb) and so far I've gotten no response. What about you? π€
@caesar WhatsApp is not end-to-end encrypted. It hasn't been for some time now since it was acquired by Facebook -- An advertising company.
@caesar WhatsApp is not end-to-end encrypted. It hasn't been for some time now since it was acquired by Facebook -- An advertising company.
@rebelljoe Oh gawd that's so disgusting and disappointing π€¦ββοΈ
@rebelljoe Oh gawd that's so disgusting and disappointing π€¦ββοΈ
@ullarah It's pretty good software actually π I can vouch for the developer π
@ullarah It's pretty good software actually π I can vouch for the developer π
I too share the same concerns. Shutting down Russian DNS infrastructure is not a viable solution here or even remotely helpful. However as I stated before, terminating their TLS certificates and Certificate Authorities however is. A lot of secure systems like financial systems rely on secure transport communications (hence TLS), without this it would be hard to trade internationally, buy arms, munitions, etc, helping to further cripple the economy and help end the war much faster IHMO.
I too share the same concerns. Shutting down Russian DNS infrastructure is not a viable solution here or even remotely helpful. However as I stated before, terminating their TLS certificates and Certificate Authorities however is. A lot of secure systems like financial systems rely on secure transport communications (hence TLS), without this it would be hard to trade internationally, buy arms, munitions, etc, helping to further cripple the economy and help end the war much faster IHMO.
@screem Well I have a lot of respect for the guy (Edward Snowden), but I can't for the life of me think why he'd be "pro-Russia". Don't get me wrong, I've known many Russians, and they're good people, but if the idea of pro-Russia is to be involved in stupid cold wars for decades, have a "president" that changes the laws so he remains in power, then start pointless wars against other countries and commit human atrocities and crimes, I'm sorry I just can't even. I _hope_ to god the people of Russian revolt and rebel against all of this. π€
@screem Well I have a lot of respect for the guy (Edward Snowden), but I can't for the life of me think why he'd be "pro-Russia". Don't get me wrong, I've known many Russians, and they're good people, but if the idea of pro-Russia is to be involved in stupid cold wars for decades, have a "president" that changes the laws so he remains in power, then start pointless wars against other countries and commit human atrocities and crimes, I'm sorry I just can't even. I _hope_ to god the people of Russian revolt and rebel against all of this. π€
@screem And what's the relevance here? π€
@screem And what's the relevance here? π€
@screem I primarily use Signal too π
@screem I primarily use Signal too π
@screem Is there some context to this Tweet? π€
@screem Is there some context to this Tweet? π€
@rebelljoe oh yeah I totally got the aesthetics π
@rebelljoe oh yeah I totally got the aesthetics π