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I can see companies taking out liability insurance for their software teams that contribute to open source, but a lowly non-paid developer that writes some open source library or software on his own?
I can see companies taking out liability insurance for their software teams that contribute to open source, but a lowly non-paid developer that writes some open source library or software on his own?
I can see companies taking out liability insurance for their software teams that contribute to open source, but a lowly non-paid developer that writes some open source library or software on his own?
Yes this is true and I thought of this too in my analogy.
The question is to what extent should lowly free time non-paid open source developers be liable vs. say large corporations that commercially benefit and profit from open source and don't contribute a dime back?
Yes this is true and I thought of this too in my analogy.
The question is to what extent should lowly free time non-paid open source developers be liable vs. say large corporations that commercially benefit and profit from open source and don't contribute a dime back?
Yes this is true and I thought of this too in my analogy.
The question is to what extent should lowly free time non-paid open source developers be liable vs. say large corporations that commercially benefit and profit from open source and don't contribute a dime back?
@stigatle Haven't you got media uploads working yet? π€
@stigatle Haven't you got media uploads working yet? π€
@stigatle Haven't you got media uploads working yet? π€
@stigatle Nice! π Especially on the dog fooding l π€
@stigatle Nice! π Especially on the dog fooding l π€
@stigatle Nice! π Especially on the dog fooding l π€
@stigatle It's early evening over here and we went the day at a water park which was nice π
@stigatle It's early evening over here and we went the day at a water park which was nice π
@stigatle It's early evening over here and we went the day at a water park which was nice π
I rally find this rhetoric quite counter productive π’ 
I rally find this rhetoric quite counter productive π’
I rally find this rhetoric quite counter productive π’
Finally, like the Eclipse suggests, if the new proposed EU laws would go ahead, I too as an open source developer would also have to either a) Put up a notice stating that none of my software, libraires, tools can be used within the EU or b) Simply go closed source. -- This would be extremely sad π’ and honestly at that point I would question even continuing to be a software developer at all.
Finally, like the Eclipse suggests, if the new proposed EU laws would go ahead, I too as an open source developer would also have to either a) Put up a notice stating that none of my software, libraires, tools can be used within the EU or b) Simply go closed source. -- This would be extremely sad π’ and honestly at that point I would question even continuing to be a software developer at all.
Finally, like the Eclipse suggests, if the new proposed EU laws would go ahead, I too as an open source developer would also have to either a) Put up a notice stating that none of my software, libraires, tools can be used within the EU or b) Simply go closed source. -- This would be extremely sad π’ and honestly at that point I would question even continuing to be a software developer at all.
The problem and difference though is that open source is produced, published and free at no cost to the consumer. I also find the situation a bit weird from a legal standpoint as I don't understand how the CRA and CLA can possibly override open source licenses that are also legal documents and a contract between the open source author(s) and consumers of that open source software/library/whatever.
The problem and difference though is that open source is produced, published and free at no cost to the consumer. I also find the situation a bit weird from a legal standpoint as I don't understand how the CRA and CLA can possibly override open source licenses that are also legal documents and a contract between the open source author(s) and consumers of that open source software/library/whatever.
The problem and difference though is that open source is produced, published and free at no cost to the consumer. I also find the situation a bit weird from a legal standpoint as I don't understand how the CRA and CLA can possibly override open source licenses that are also legal documents and a contract between the open source author(s) and consumers of that open source software/library/whatever.
@marado I see. Thanks, read that article and it makes the problem a bit clear, especially on the liability issue. So, it seems EU lawmakers are trying to fix an economical problem by introducing a new set of laws that regulate a large part of the software industry (open source) that has effectively zero revenue?! This seems to be a bit counter intuitive to me, how are open source developers able to deal with liability for something they produce and publish for free?
What seems to be at play here is the capability of open source that has enabled great software reuse by large commercial ventures is under threat by lawmakers that don't seem to fully grasp the landscape of open source.
The liability of software and products should be with the builders of that product. This is a bit of a tricky situation, because if you're building a skyscraper a it falls down because of faulty concrete pylon footings, who's at fault, who is liable? You or the company that poured the pylons?
@marado I see. Thanks, read that article and it makes the problem a bit clear, especially on the liability issue. So, it seems EU lawmakers are trying to fix an economical problem by introducing a new set of laws that regulate a large part of the software industry (open source) that has effectively zero revenue?! This seems to be a bit counter intuitive to me, how are open source developers able to deal with liability for something they produce and publish for free?
What seems to be at play here is the capability of open source that has enabled great software reuse by large commercial ventures is under threat by lawmakers that don't seem to fully grasp the landscape of open source.
The liability of software and products should be with the builders of that product. This is a bit of a tricky situation, because if you're building a skyscraper a it falls down because of faulty concrete pylon footings, who's at fault, who is liable? You or the company that poured the pylons?
@marado I see. Thanks, read that article and it makes the problem a bit clear, especially on the liability issue. So, it seems EU lawmakers are trying to fix an economical problem by introducing a new set of laws that regulate a large part of the software industry (open source) that has effectively zero revenue?! This seems to be a bit counter intuitive to me, how are open source developers able to deal with liability for something they produce and publish for free?
What seems to be at play here is the capability of open source that has enabled great software reuse by large commercial ventures is under threat by lawmakers that don't seem to fully grasp the landscape of open source.
The liability of software and products should be with the builders of that product. This is a bit of a tricky situation, because if you're building a skyscraper a it falls down because of faulty concrete pylon footings, who's at fault, who is liable? You or the company that poured the pylons?
Heading out to a water park today π Last chance for the girls to have some fun before school starts back up next week π
Heading out to a water park today π Last chance for the girls to have some fun before school starts back up next week π
Heading out to a water park today π Last chance for the girls to have some fun before school starts back up next week π
@marado Do you mind highlighting what the CRA and CLA are proposing that puts open source and individual open source authors at risk?
@marado Do you mind highlighting what the CRA and CLA are proposing that puts open source and individual open source authors at risk?
@marado Do you mind highlighting what the CRA and CLA are proposing that puts open source and individual open source authors at risk?
@abucci That's the thing about common sense.
Ita not very common nowadays π
@abucci That's the thing about common sense.
Ita not very common nowadays π
@abucci That's the thing about common sense.
Ita not very common nowadays π
Do one for micro services next! π€£
Do one for micro services next! π€£
Do one for micro services next! π€£
I honestly think you'll end up reinventing the same ideas π
I honestly think you'll end up reinventing the same ideas π
I honestly think you'll end up reinventing the same ideas π
@abucci Hahaha this is the second report of this happeningπ€£π€¦ββοΈ
@abucci Hahaha this is the second report of this happeningπ€£π€¦ββοΈ
@abucci Hahaha this is the second report of this happeningπ€£π€¦ββοΈ
@xuu Bahahahahaha π€£ Soo goood! π
@xuu Bahahahahaha π€£ Soo goood! π
@xuu Bahahahahaha π€£ Soo goood! π
@abucci Ahh yeah, you're right. I have one of those X-something page long CV(s) somewhere, but I've given up trying to maintain it π
@abucci Ahh yeah, you're right. I have one of those X-something page long CV(s) somewhere, but I've given up trying to maintain it π
@abucci Ahh yeah, you're right. I have one of those X-something page long CV(s) somewhere, but I've given up trying to maintain it π
@movq Oh good lordie lord π€¦ββοΈ
@movq Oh good lordie lord π€¦ββοΈ
@movq Oh good lordie lord π€¦ββοΈ
@movq Hmmm
> Better Nate than lever!
Is that the punchline?! π€
@movq Hmmm
> Better Nate than lever!
Is that the punchline?! π€
@movq Hmmm
> Better Nate than lever!
Is that the punchline?! π€
@movq Damnit! Please tell me what was it π€£
@movq Damnit! Please tell me what was it π€£
@movq Damnit! Please tell me what was it π€£
@movq I honestly tried to read this last night, but it was sooo long, got bored in the end, scrolled to the bottom and didn't get the punchline. π±π€¦ββοΈ
@movq I honestly tried to read this last night, but it was sooo long, got bored in the end, scrolled to the bottom and didn't get the punchline. π±π€¦ββοΈ
@movq I honestly tried to read this last night, but it was sooo long, got bored in the end, scrolled to the bottom and didn't get the punchline. π±π€¦ββοΈ
They are the same thing. Weird π Where is your CS/Reaume? Maybe I can take a look at it and give you some feedback?
They are the same thing. Weird π Where is your CS/Reaume? Maybe I can take a look at it and give you some feedback?
They are the same thing. Weird π Where is your CS/Reaume? Maybe I can take a look at it and give you some feedback?
@adi What's wrong with Git?
@adi What's wrong with Git?
@adi What's wrong with Git?
@shreyan Care to elaborate on what you mean by Twtxt is like UNIX ? π
@shreyan Care to elaborate on what you mean by Twtxt is like UNIX ? π
@shreyan Care to elaborate on what you mean by Twtxt is like UNIX ? π
