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One thing to be clear about here is that it was never my intention for a pod's "front page" (Discover view when not logged in) to be any kind of "listing" or "advertising" or such. That was completely unintentional. If this is expected somehow, we should probably discuss that too more seriously and discuss its merits, and if it can be support, should be supported, or if there's a different solution entirely? For example. there is the search engine which _could_ show a global feed/timeline view, albeit the domain could be something different.
One thing to be clear about here is that it was never my intention for a pod's "front page" (Discover view when not logged in) to be any kind of "listing" or "advertising" or such. That was completely unintentional. If this is expected somehow, we should probably discuss that too more seriously and discuss its merits, and if it can be support, should be supported, or if there's a different solution entirely? For example. there is the search engine which _could_ show a global feed/timeline view, albeit the domain could be something different.
I'd like to hear some ideas that fix or improve the signal / noise ratio for all users and even benefits non-users (anonymous users just hitting a pod's index page, which is the discover view)
I'd like to hear some ideas that fix or improve the signal / noise ratio for all users and even benefits non-users (anonymous users just hitting a pod's index page, which is the discover view)
I'd like to hear some ideas that fix or improve the signal / noise ratio for all users and even benefits non-users (anonymous users just hitting a pod's index page, which is the discover view)
There's also a pod-level setting (admins) that control what the "Discover" (or front page if you're not logged in) display:



This is either:

- Local posts only (local to the pod)
- All posts in the pod's cache
There's also a pod-level setting (admins) that control what the "Discover" (or front page if you're not logged in) display:



This is either:

- Local posts only (local to the pod)
- All posts in the pod's cache
There's also a pod-level setting (admins) that control what the "Discover" (or front page if you're not logged in) display:



This is either:

- Local posts only (local to the pod)
- All posts in the pod's cache
One of the problems I have with changing the way the "Discover" view works whilst at the same time keeping it "clean" (_depending on who you talk to_) is the behaviour between "Timeline" (what you follow explicitly) and "Discover" (a view into the pod's cache). See attached, where I by default prefer a "collapsed" view (_hiding replies_). The default behaviour for Discover (no controls) is "everything".



The reason I bring this up is that part of my "workflow" has become to occasionally use the "Discover" view to see if I've missed any "in-between" replies that often happen, find new interesting folks to follow and/or interact with, etc.

Changing this to anything but the current behaviour would break this flow for me 😒
One of the problems I have with changing the way the "Discover" view works whilst at the same time keeping it "clean" (_depending on who you talk to_) is the behaviour between "Timeline" (what you follow explicitly) and "Discover" (a view into the pod's cache). See attached, where I by default prefer a "collapsed" view (_hiding replies_). The default behaviour for Discover (no controls) is "everything".



The reason I bring this up is that part of my "workflow" has become to occasionally use the "Discover" view to see if I've missed any "in-between" replies that often happen, find new interesting folks to follow and/or interact with, etc.

Changing this to anything but the current behaviour would break this flow for me 😒
One of the problems I have with changing the way the "Discover" view works whilst at the same time keeping it "clean" (_depending on who you talk to_) is the behaviour between "Timeline" (what you follow explicitly) and "Discover" (a view into the pod's cache). See attached, where I by default prefer a "collapsed" view (_hiding replies_). The default behaviour for Discover (no controls) is "everything".



The reason I bring this up is that part of my "workflow" has become to occasionally use the "Discover" view to see if I've missed any "in-between" replies that often happen, find new interesting folks to follow and/or interact with, etc.

Changing this to anything but the current behaviour would break this flow for me 😒
One of the problems I have with changing the way the "Discover" view works whilst at the same time keeping it "clean" (_depending on who you talk to_) is the behaviour between "Timeline" (what you follow explicitly) and "Discover" (a view into the pod's cache). See attached, where I by default prefer a "collapsed" view (_hiding replies_). The default behaviour for Discover (no controls) is "everything".

The reason I bring this up is that part of my "workflow" has become to occasionally use the "Discover" view to see if I've missed any "in-between" replies that often happen, find new interesting folks to follow and/or interact with, etc.

Changing this to anything but the current behaviour would break this flow for me 😒
@bender Nah feeling pretty rubbish today actually 😒
@bender Nah feeling pretty rubbish today actually 😒
@bender Nah feeling pretty rubbish today actually 😒
@marcorocco What are you updating and changing out in your bathroom? πŸ€” We probably need to update our bathroom too, the spa pipes are getting a bit uggh πŸ˜…
@marcorocco What are you updating and changing out in your bathroom? πŸ€” We probably need to update our bathroom too, the spa pipes are getting a bit uggh πŸ˜…
@marcorocco What are you updating and changing out in your bathroom? πŸ€” We probably need to update our bathroom too, the spa pipes are getting a bit uggh πŸ˜…
@aelaraji I just woke up fianally 🀣 It's 12:45pm here (midday)
@aelaraji I just woke up fianally 🀣 It's 12:45pm here (midday)
@aelaraji I just woke up fianally 🀣 It's 12:45pm here (midday)
@bender Haha I know and @lyse is awesome🀣
@bender Haha I know and @lyse is awesome🀣
@bender Haha I know and @lyse is awesome🀣
@dfaria Appreciate this πŸ‘Œ Right now the algorithm is quite dumb -- and I'd also hate to develop any algorithm that abuses any data from users. So definately needs to be things like:

- one post per day per domain
- or latest post per domain

etc/./
@dfaria Appreciate this πŸ‘Œ Right now the algorithm is quite dumb -- and I'd also hate to develop any algorithm that abuses any data from users. So definately needs to be things like:

- one post per day per domain
- or latest post per domain

etc/./
@dfaria Appreciate this πŸ‘Œ Right now the algorithm is quite dumb -- and I'd also hate to develop any algorithm that abuses any data from users. So definately needs to be things like:

- one post per day per domain
- or latest post per domain

etc/./
@sorenpeter Yup! Some good simple ideas there πŸ‘Œ
@sorenpeter Yup! Some good simple ideas there πŸ‘Œ
@sorenpeter Yup! Some good simple ideas there πŸ‘Œ
@sorenpeter Thanks for your positivity and support ! πŸ€— This is exaxrly spot on, however I also realize getting things "right" is actually quite hard πŸ˜…
@sorenpeter Thanks for your positivity and support ! πŸ€— This is exaxrly spot on, however I also realize getting things "right" is actually quite hard πŸ˜…
@sorenpeter Thanks for your positivity and support ! πŸ€— This is exaxrly spot on, however I also realize getting things "right" is actually quite hard πŸ˜…
@lyse How mixh emphasis do you place on test software?
@lyse How much emphasis do you place on test coverage?
@lyse How much emphasis do you place on test coverage?
@lyse How much emphasis do you place on test coverage?
To be fair cleaning up "noise" is quite hard to do. Obciously all the 1-way Mastodon feeds were easy because there's just no way to interact with them!
To be fair cleaning up "noise" is quite hard to do. Obciously all the 1-way Mastodon feeds were easy because there's just no way to interact with them!
To be fair cleaning up "noise" is quite hard to do. Obciously all the 1-way Mastodon feeds were easy because there's just no way to interact with them!
@dfaria That's fair. Also removed the block on your domain btw.
@dfaria That's fair. Also removed the block on your domain btw.
@dfaria That's fair. Also removed the block on your domain btw.
@bender I guess all I can do is unblock the domain and sit down and rethink the "Discover" view's design and behavior? hmmm 🧐 Alternatively, build a new yarnd 2.0? as a single-user pod only?
@bender I guess all I can do is unblock the domain and sit down and rethink the "Discover" view's design and behavior? hmmm 🧐 Alternatively, build a new yarnd 2.0? as a single-user pod only?
@bender I guess all I can do is unblock the domain and sit down and rethink the "Discover" view's design and behavior? hmmm 🧐 Alternatively, build a new yarnd 2.0? as a single-user pod only?
@bender Yeah I could get behind that. Define minimalistic though? What features (if any) would we drop? Would it be mobile-first or desktop-first?
@bender Yeah I could get behind that. Define minimalistic though? What features (if any) would we drop? Would it be mobile-first or desktop-first?
@bender Yeah I could get behind that. Define minimalistic though? What features (if any) would we drop? Would it be mobile-first or desktop-first?
@bender I couldn't agree more 🀣
@bender I couldn't agree more 🀣
@bender I couldn't agree more 🀣
@bender I never see problems on my end, so I suspect this has to be Cloudflare doing this occasionally. I'll have to poke around there again. At least I have a close enough timestamp :D Maybe message me your IP and approximate timestamp?
@bender I never see problems on my end, so I suspect this has to be Cloudflare doing this occasionally. I'll have to poke around there again. At least I have a close enough timestamp :D Maybe message me your IP and approximate timestamp?
@bender I never see problems on my end, so I suspect this has to be Cloudflare doing this occasionally. I'll have to poke around there again. At least I have a close enough timestamp :D Maybe message me your IP and approximate timestamp?
I think multi-user pods were a mistake.
I think multi-user pods were a mistake.
I think multi-user pods were a mistake.
@dfaria Sorry this has pissed you off so much (unintentional) -- Also why the irrational outburst?! 😱 That's no way to have discourse or help improve anything πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

If you have ideas for improvement we're all ears πŸ‘‚
@dfaria Sorry this has pissed you off so much (unintentional) -- Also why the irrational outburst?! 😱 That's no way to have discourse or help improve anything πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

If you have ideas for improvement we're all ears πŸ‘‚
@dfaria Sorry this has pissed you off so much (unintentional) -- Also why the irrational outburst?! 😱 That's no way to have discourse or help improve anything πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

If you have ideas for improvement we're all ears πŸ‘‚
@dfaria Cancelling is a strong word. I'd you follow your other feed yourself it's still visible to you!

This whole exercise just reenforces that the idea of the "Discover" view was and is a terrible idea. 😒
@dfaria Cancelling is a strong word. I'd you follow your other feed yourself it's still visible to you!

This whole exercise just reenforces that the idea of the "Discover" view was and is a terrible idea. 😒
@dfaria Cancelling is a strong word. I'd you follow your other feed yourself it's still visible to you!

This whole exercise just reenforces that the idea of the "Discover" view was and is a terrible idea. 😒
@osnews

> We’ll have to see how this policy will be implemented, but I like that Gentoo is willing to take a stand.

Me tooπŸ˜…
@osnews

> We’ll have to see how this policy will be implemented, but I like that Gentoo is willing to take a stand.

Me tooπŸ˜…
@osnews

> We’ll have to see how this policy will be implemented, but I like that Gentoo is willing to take a stand.

Me tooπŸ˜…
@movq Haha 🀣 I saw this too and immediately thought

> I have to stop using Terraform

🀣
@movq Haha 🀣 I saw this too and immediately thought

> I have to stop using Terraform

🀣
@movq Haha 🀣 I saw this too and immediately thought

> I have to stop using Terraform

🀣
@bender Oh my 😱
@bender Oh my 😱
@bender Oh my 😱
@mckinley I'm not sure to be honest I think it's just a straight up duplicate post. This _actually_ does happen, it's not a bug, it's a "human problem", but yeah it's annoying, so it's making me want to figure out a way of keeping some kind of similarity db to strip duplicates out like this.
@mckinley I'm not sure to be honest I think it's just a straight up duplicate post. This _actually_ does happen, it's not a bug, it's a "human problem", but yeah it's annoying, so it's making me want to figure out a way of keeping some kind of similarity db to strip duplicates out like this.
@mckinley I'm not sure to be honest I think it's just a straight up duplicate post. This _actually_ does happen, it's not a bug, it's a "human problem", but yeah it's annoying, so it's making me want to figure out a way of keeping some kind of similarity db to strip duplicates out like this.
Hmmm the feeds service needs some kind of deduping πŸ€” Slashdot seems to be the most frequent culprit πŸ™„ For example #oc2vksa and #wbx7ioq
Hmmm the feeds service needs some kind of deduping πŸ€” Slashdot seems to be the most frequent culprit πŸ™„ For example #oc2vksa and #wbx7ioq
Hmmm the feeds service needs some kind of deduping πŸ€” Slashdot seems to be the most frequent culprit πŸ™„ For example #oc2vksa and #wbx7ioq
Oh wow that's a lot of UPS(es) 🀣
Oh wow that's a lot of UPS(es) 🀣
Oh wow that's a lot of UPS(es) 🀣
@bender good idea πŸ˜…
@bender good idea πŸ˜…
@bender good idea πŸ˜…
@bender Get well soon! 🀞
@bender Get well soon! 🀞
@bender Get well soon! 🀞
@bender A: Yes
@bender A: Yes
@bender A: Yes
@bender Yup! It maybe should try to detect a pipe maybe too?
@bender Yup! It maybe should try to detect a pipe maybe too?
@bender Yup! It maybe should try to detect a pipe maybe too?
And yes @bender pods will reintroduce old root Twts like this back into active caches 🀣 Just not the ones in/between (old replies)
And yes @bender pods will reintroduce old root Twts like this back into active caches 🀣 Just not the ones in/between (old replies)
And yes @bender pods will reintroduce old root Twts like this back into active caches 🀣 Just not the ones in/between (old replies)
Funny how well shit works that we've collectively built 🀣
Funny how well shit works that we've collectively built 🀣
Funny how well shit works that we've collectively built 🀣