james instead 🤣
james instead 🤣
$ inspect-db yarns.db | jq -r '.Value.URL' | grep 'aelaraji.com'
https://aelaraji.com/test_feed.txt
https://aelaraji.com/twtxt.txt
$ inspect-db yarns.db | jq -r '.Value.URL' | grep 'aelaraji.com'
https://aelaraji.com/test_feed.txt
https://aelaraji.com/twtxt.txt
kex1fhxntuc0av7q48hlfj970ve297dzzghn82wp5cahr9r92y8rlrqqtwp983
kex1fhxntuc0av7q48hlfj970ve297dzzghn82wp5cahr9r92y8rlrqqtwp983
- Drop
# url= from the spec.- We don't adopt
# uuid = -- Something @anth also mentioned (_see below_)We instead use the
@nick@domain to identify your feed in the first place and use that as the identify when calculating Twt hashes <id> + <timestamp> + <content>. Now in an ideal world I also agree, use WebFinger for this and expect that for the most part you'll be doing a WebFinger lookup of @user@domain to fetch someone's feed in the first place.The only problem with WebFinger is should this be mandated or a recommendation?
- Drop
# url= from the spec.- We don't adopt
# uuid = -- Something @anth also mentioned (_see below_)We instead use the
@nick@domain to identify your feed in the first place and use that as the identify when calculating Twt hashes <id> + <timestamp> + <content>. Now in an ideal world I also agree, use WebFinger for this and expect that for the most part you'll be doing a WebFinger lookup of @user@domain to fetch someone's feed in the first place.The only problem with WebFinger is should this be mandated or a recommendation?
> 17:42
I actually agree with in both counts and it got me thinking...
> 17:42
I actually agree with in both counts and it got me thinking...
Not sure what to say here. 🤔
Not sure what to say here. 🤔
Thank you to whomever said this! 🙇♂️
Thank you to whomever said this! 🙇♂️
See previous. Sorry 😞
See previous. Sorry 😞
See previous.
See previous.
Yes, I totally get where you're coming from. However after ~22 results, I _think_ y'all have figured out how to rank them appropriately anyway 🤣~
Yes, I totally get where you're coming from. However after ~22 results, I _think_ y'all have figured out how to rank them appropriately anyway 🤣~
> your poll should include questions about markdown. personally i think inline bits like style, links, images are yes. block quotes, code blocks, bullet lists are mid. but tables and footnotes are no.
Yes sorry about this, I wasn't able to change much after publishing the poll 😅
> your poll should include questions about markdown. personally i think inline bits like style, links, images are yes. block quotes, code blocks, bullet lists are mid. but tables and footnotes are no.
Yes sorry about this, I wasn't able to change much after publishing the poll 😅
yarnd hwoever:
$ yarnc debug https://sunshinegardens.org/~xjix/twtxt/tw.txt
...
bqor23a 2024-09-26T11:09:28-07:00 if twtxt 2 is dropping gemini support, i will probably move on and spend more time on my gemini social zine protocol instead. i think the direction of the protocol is probably fine, but for me web is a tier 2 publishing channel. if the choice is between gemini and http i'm always going to pick gemini. its been a fun ride, but i guess this is where i get off.
The
yarnc CLI tool and the lextwt parser we use in yarnd _correctly_ parses the feed and sets the Twter.HashingURI to the latest # url = found in the feed. However my pod hasn't picked this up 😢 I follow @cuaxolotl as https://sunshinegardens.org/~xjix/twtxt/tw.txt
yarnd hwoever:
$ yarnc debug https://sunshinegardens.org/~xjix/twtxt/tw.txt
...
bqor23a 2024-09-26T11:09:28-07:00 if twtxt 2 is dropping gemini support, i will probably move on and spend more time on my gemini social zine protocol instead. i think the direction of the protocol is probably fine, but for me web is a tier 2 publishing channel. if the choice is between gemini and http i'm always going to pick gemini. its been a fun ride, but i guess this is where i get off.
The
yarnc CLI tool and the lextwt parser we use in yarnd _correctly_ parses the feed and sets the Twter.HashingURI to the latest # url = found in the feed. However my pod hasn't picked this up 😢 I follow @cuaxolotl as https://sunshinegardens.org/~xjix/twtxt/tw.txt
yarnd hwoever:
$ yarnc debug https://sunshinegardens.org/~xjix/twtxt/tw.txt
...
bqor23a 2024-09-26T11:09:28-07:00\tif twtxt 2 is dropping gemini support, i will probably move on and spend more time on my gemini social zine protocol instead. i think the direction of the protocol is probably fine, but for me web is a tier 2 publishing channel. if the choice is between gemini and http i'm always going to pick gemini. its been a fun ride, but i guess this is where i get off.
The
yarnc CLI tool and the lextwt parser we use in yarnd _correctly_ parses the feed and sets the Twter.HashingURI to the latest # url = found in the feed. However my pod hasn't picked this up 😢 I follow @cuaxolotl as https://sunshinegardens.org/~xjix/twtxt/tw.txt
$ total=$(inspect-db yarns.db | jq -r '.Value.URL' | awk -F'//' '{if ($1 ~ /^https?/) print "http/https:"; else print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | awk '{sum+=$1} END {print sum}'); inspect-db yarns.db | jq -r '.Value.URL' | awk -F'//' '{if ($1 ~ /^https?/) print "http/https:"; else print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | awk -v total="$total" '{printf "%d %s %.2f%%\n", $1, $2, ($1/total)*100}' | sort -r
7 gemini: 0.66%
4 gopher: 0.38%
1046 http/https: 98.96%
$ total=$(inspect-db yarns.db | jq -r '.Value.URL' | awk -F'//' '{if ($1 ~ /^https?/) print "http/https:"; else print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | awk '{sum+=$1} END {print sum}'); inspect-db yarns.db | jq -r '.Value.URL' | awk -F'//' '{if ($1 ~ /^https?/) print "http/https:"; else print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | awk -v total="$total" '{printf "%d %s %.2f%%\\n", $1, $2, ($1/total)*100}' | sort -r
7 gemini: 0.66%
4 gopher: 0.38%
1046 http/https: 98.96%
$ total=$(inspect-db yarns.db | jq -r '.Value.URL' | awk -F'//' '{if ($1 ~ /^https?/) print "http/https:"; else print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | awk '{sum+=$1} END {print sum}'); inspect-db yarns.db | jq -r '.Value.URL' | awk -F'//' '{if ($1 ~ /^https?/) print "http/https:"; else print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | awk -v total="$total" '{printf "%d %s %.2f%%\\n", $1, $2, ($1/total)*100}' | sort -r
7 gemini: 0.66%
4 gopher: 0.38%
1046 http/https: 98.96%
$ total=$(inspect-db yarns.db | jq -r '.Value.URL' | awk -F'//' '{if ($1 ~ /^https?/) print "http/https:"; else print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | awk '{sum+=$1} END {print sum}'); inspect-db yarns.db | jq -r '.Value.URL' | awk -F'//' '{if ($1 ~ /^https?/) print "http/https:"; else print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | awk -v total="$total" '{printf "%d %s %.2f%%\n", $1, $2, ($1/total)*100}' | sort -r
7 gemini: 0.66%
4 gopher: 0.38%
1046 http/https: 98.96%
# refresh becomes useless anyway at a certain point of scale.
# refresh becomes useless anyway at a certain point of scale.
This is a bit of a problem because if a Feed author complains (_nad they have in the past_) that their Gopher/Gemini feeds are being hit "too hard", well that's really kind of on them for choosing to host their feed on an ill advised protocol thatc cannot possibly support Caching at all.
This is primarily one of the reasons we introduced the idea of a "feed advised refresh interval" that clients SHOULD respect.
See: https://dev.twtxt.net/doc/metadataextension.html#refresh
> refresh
> This optional field is used by feed authors as a hint to clients to control how often they should fetch or update this feed.
>
> The value of this field is seconds represented by an integer.
>
> NOTE: An empty, bad, or unparsable value is ignored.
This is a bit of a problem because if a Feed author complains (_nad they have in the past_) that their Gopher/Gemini feeds are being hit "too hard", well that's really kind of on them for choosing to host their feed on an ill advised protocol thatc cannot possibly support Caching at all.
This is primarily one of the reasons we introduced the idea of a "feed advised refresh interval" that clients SHOULD respect.
See: https://dev.twtxt.net/doc/metadataextension.html#refresh
> refresh
> This optional field is used by feed authors as a hint to clients to control how often they should fetch or update this feed.
>
> The value of this field is seconds represented by an integer.
>
> NOTE: An empty, bad, or unparsable value is ignored.
$ for url in gemini://sunshinegardens.org/~xjix/twtxt/tw.txt https://sunshinegardens.org/~xjix/twtxt/tw.txt //sunshinegardens.org/~xjix/twtxt/tw.txt; do yarnc hash -t '2024-09-26T11:09:28-07:00' -u "$url" "if twtxt 2 is dropping gemini support, i will probably move on and spend more time on my gemini social zine protocol instead. i think the direction of the protocol is probably fine, but for me web is a tier 2 publishing channel. if the choice is between gemini and http i'm always going to pick gemini. its been a fun ride, but i guess this is where i get off."; done
fk2af7q
7kvnpaq
bqor23a
$ for url in gemini://sunshinegardens.org/~xjix/twtxt/tw.txt https://sunshinegardens.org/~xjix/twtxt/tw.txt //sunshinegardens.org/~xjix/twtxt/tw.txt; do yarnc hash -t '2024-09-26T11:09:28-07:00' -u "$url" "if twtxt 2 is dropping gemini support, i will probably move on and spend more time on my gemini social zine protocol instead. i think the direction of the protocol is probably fine, but for me web is a tier 2 publishing channel. if the choice is between gemini and http i'm always going to pick gemini. its been a fun ride, but i guess this is where i get off."; done
fk2af7q
7kvnpaq
bqor23a
# url = //sunshinegardens.org/~xjix/twtxt/tw.txt
# url = https://sunshinegardens.org/~xjix/twtxt/tw.txt
# url = gemini://sunshinegardens.org/~xjix/twtxt/tw.txt
@cuaxolotl has changed the
url of their feed (_yet again_) and changed every hash in their feed.@antonio is right to call this out. We should drop the reliance on the
# url metadata field and in fact we should probably just drop this entirely from the spec and go with # uuid as the basis of a feed's identity.Even though this happens very rarely (_feeds moving to new locations_) it more frequently happens with folks that try to serve their feed from Gopher, HTTP and Gemini.
# url = //sunshinegardens.org/~xjix/twtxt/tw.txt
# url = https://sunshinegardens.org/~xjix/twtxt/tw.txt
# url = gemini://sunshinegardens.org/~xjix/twtxt/tw.txt
@cuaxolotl has changed the
url of their feed (_yet again_) and changed every hash in their feed.@antonio is right to call this out. We should drop the reliance on the
# url metadata field and in fact we should probably just drop this entirely from the spec and go with # uuid as the basis of a feed's identity.Even though this happens very rarely (_feeds moving to new locations_) it more frequently happens with folks that try to serve their feed from Gopher, HTTP and Gemini.
2024-09-27T01:28:53+00:00 (#bqor23a) @<cuaxolotl https://sunshinegardens.org/~xj9/twtxt/tw.txt> Wait, what!? We're dropping Gemini support!?
From @aelaraji's feed. I think @cuaxolotl doesn't do threading properly, I've run into this once before. I'm not sure what client they use? 🤔
2024-09-27T01:28:53Z\t(#bqor23a) @<cuaxolotl https://sunshinegardens.org/~xj9/twtxt/tw.txt> Wait, what!? We're dropping Gemini support!?
From @aelaraji's feed. I think @cuaxolotl doesn't do threading properly, I've run into this once before. I'm not sure what client they use? 🤔
2024-09-27T01:28:53+00:00\t(#bqor23a) @<cuaxolotl https://sunshinegardens.org/~xj9/twtxt/tw.txt> Wait, what!? We're dropping Gemini support!?
From @aelaraji's feed. I think @cuaxolotl doesn't do threading properly, I've run into this once before. I'm not sure what client they use? 🤔
2024-09-27T01:28:53Z (#bqor23a) @<cuaxolotl https://sunshinegardens.org/~xj9/twtxt/tw.txt> Wait, what!? We're dropping Gemini support!?
From @aelaraji's feed. I think @cuaxolotl doesn't do threading properly, I've run into this once before. I'm not sure what client they use? 🤔
2024-09-27T01:28:53+00:00 (#bqor23a) @<cuaxolotl https://sunshinegardens.org/~xj9/twtxt/tw.txt> Wait, what!? We're dropping Gemini support!?
From @aelaraji's feed. I think @cuaxolotl doesn't do threading properly, I've run into this once before. I'm not sure what client they use? 🤔
(#bqor23a). Its the same one. My pod doesn't have the Root Twt: https://twtxt.net/twt/bqor23a => 404 Not Found.How in the hell did you even reply to this in the first place?=
(#bqor23a). Its the same one. My pod doesn't have the Root Twt: https://twtxt.net/twt/bqor23a => 404 Not Found.How in the hell did you even reply to this in the first place?=
@cuaxolotl We probably won’t in fairness. i only called it out because discovery is made much harder with Gopher and Gemini. Caching is also impossible too.
@cuaxolotl We probably won’t in fairness. U only called it out because discovery is made much harder with Gopher and Gemini. Caching is also impossible too.
@cuaxolotl We probably won’t in fairness. i only called it out because discovery is made much harder with Gopher and Gemini. Caching is also impossible too.
http://polljunkie.com/poll/xdgjib/twtxt-v2
http://polljunkie.com/poll/xdgjib/twtxt-v2
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