# I am the Watcher. I am your guide through this vast new twtiverse.
#
# Usage:
# https://watcher.sour.is/api/plain/users View list of users and latest twt date.
# https://watcher.sour.is/api/plain/twt View all twts.
# https://watcher.sour.is/api/plain/mentions?uri=:uri View all mentions for uri.
# https://watcher.sour.is/api/plain/conv/:hash View all twts for a conversation subject.
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# Options:
# uri Filter to show a specific users twts.
# offset Start index for quey.
# limit Count of items to return (going back in time).
#
# twt range = 1 2032
# self = https://watcher.sour.is?uri=https://anthony.buc.ci/user/abucci/twtxt.txt&offset=632
# next = https://watcher.sour.is?uri=https://anthony.buc.ci/user/abucci/twtxt.txt&offset=732
# prev = https://watcher.sour.is?uri=https://anthony.buc.ci/user/abucci/twtxt.txt&offset=532
I suppose this is probably way down on the priority list, but it'd be useful at times (for me) if yarnc also had a mentions subcommand, since sometimes I'm living in the terminal and read my timeline there.
Ah yeah, the "yarn.social dark" theme is what I had before, and if I switch back to that in the Look And Feel settings it looks how it used to look. The SimpleCSS theme comes at me with the yellow.
@prologic I'm not complaining! It looks great, just different! Anyway, all this used to be blue: 
Wow I upgraded to yarnd 0.15.0 and there's a lot of yellow where there used to be blue! Because of the phosphorous?
@eaplmx please post a video of you playing it!
@mckinley I wasn't on the call, but I have an ODROID XU4 and a RockPro64. I've used them for various things off and on, but right now they're in a box.
@mckinley to be fair, none of this is the computers' fault. Humans did all that!
Decker
> Decker is a multimedia platform for creating and sharing interactive documents, with sound, images, hypertext, and scripted behavior.
>
> Decker builds on the legacy of HyperCard and the visual aesthetic of classic MacOS
Not a single person who quit twitter signed up at my pod 😭
Mastodon seems slow too. No idea if this is my imagination, my internet connection, something else, or traffic caused by another mass exodus from twitter
Nitter.net seems to be struggling today.
I saw this in another yarn
> The human icon 👤 is gone
and now I think I'll say that every time I leave a room from now on.
@prologic I believe in markdown a single line break does not start a new paragraph. You need a double line break for that. So if you're using a markdown renderer this is expected behavior.
@eaplmx looks correct in Goryon for me: 
On mobile web, there are no newlines as you say.
@prologic right, I mean a problem that has many edge cases that are easy to miss and tricky to get right (haven't tried so I'm just guessing). Like if the original post is edited, and the new post is magically linked to the edited version, but the edited removes the text the response was responding to.
@prologic yeah, and I think to do that correctly might be super hard, so it's one of those problens that's rare and whose solutions are likely to be buggy. ⛔
that seems like a giant can of worms though never mind
@prologic Interesting! I wonder how hard it'd be to make that automated 🤔
@prologic yeah, not a huge fan either. I made an account there a couple years ago when it became clear to me that I'd someday leave twitter. I hadn't fully thought through my stance on decentralized social networking at that point, unfortunately. I might end up leaving it too eventually.
@prologic yes, I no longer refer to any of my gadgets as the baby now that I have a human one 😄
Over on mastodon there are a bunch of people tooting about an influx of users from twitter or posting welcome messages for new users. It's always interesting to observe over there when something lousy happens with twitter 🍿
@prologic @eaplmx Cool. I will go looking for that once I have a chance to sit at my computer. Our caregiver canceled at the last minute today so I'm watching the baby right now!
Goryon feature requests!
- edit
- some kind of "you've read up to here" marker
- hide the conversation hash and show some way to get to the yarn
@prologic fwiw default to the Discover feed too, though that's because I'm the only person on my pod and I'm a n00b 🥺
Twitter account deactivated. It should be deleted at some point if I don't access it.
Good fucking riddance.
Glad to have switched to a microblogging platform where I fully control my data and can do what I want with it.
@tkanos how to drive your car under dangerous circumstances where others might be harmed is a moral question.
There was the issue of whether there was some way to measure statistically whether having a computer drive your car instead is somehow better. But, unless the computer is orders of magnitude safer, which it is not at this time and will not be any time soon, the question is a category error.
It's a category error because you can't answer a moral question with statistics. People try constantly but that doesn't make it right.
@tkanos you can't apply statistics to moral questions any more than you can milk a cow with a communications satellite.
@tkanos no, it's not a statistical problem. At all. And it is unethical to think so, so please be careful.
@tkanos @will (a) the Tesla autopilot has killed people no human would have mistakenly killed; (b) no computer program can make moral decisions, and we should not be moving in the direction of placing trust into machines to do so--the act of trying to offload such decisions is itself an immoral act; (c) it's possible computer vision will never be good enough to drive a car, because driving a car is probably "AI Complete" (meaning a task that requires artificial general intelligence to perform).
The fact that people die in car wrecks is therefore not an argument in favor of self-driving cars. It's an argument in favor of public transportation, safety regulations, training, etc.
@prologic that looks cool. I'm running the last release though (0.14.0) and like to stick with actual released software for "production" when I can so I probably won't clone/compile the latest code any time soon.
@prologic I'll have to see if I can dig it up, but I watched a YouTube video once of a stunt driver driving a Tesla through a test track. He'd driven all sorts of different cars, and his assessment of the Tesla was "it sucks" (he didn't say it like that, that's my interpretation). It also made him dizzy, apparently, which I've seen here and there from Tesla drivers.
My wife took an Uber once that was a Tesla and she said the interior felt cheap lol
Anyway, a few years ago it dawned on me that Musk is a con artist, and ever since then I look at everything he does through that lens. It rarely steers me wrong. He does things to enrich himself and his reputation, and he doesn't care who he hurts in the process. So, Tesla is not a car company, it's a con. SpaceX is a real space company, but he conned his way into being associated with it even though he's barely involved in it. The Boring Company was a con. Even his hair is a con. Etc.
@prologic eesh, that's tough. It seems like each site does a different thing with its logo. Phoronix has theirs one level down; others have it in the root.
Perhaps the thing to do is to make it an option for the user who is adding the feed to add a URL to the logo. At that point it's easy enough to copy-paste the URL to the logo from the web page. I'd gladly do that to have nice logos in the feed!
@prologic me? Man, Tesla has been a con from day 1. They barely ship any cars. One quarter, they made all their reported profits from bitcoin sales. It's never going to be able to compete with the major car companies who are releasing electric vehicles now, and it seems to me that Tesla all along was about a narcissistic publicity play + a play to secure battery components and supply chains. They put an "autopilot" feature into the cars suggesting that they are self-driving, but then after a bunch crashed and killed/injured people, they walked that back a bit (but not completely) and are now rightfully facing scrutiny. There are reports that when the batteries get low, the car's controls lock up, even if the car is moving 70 mph down a highway! It's like, they're not even real cars, they're toys that shouldn't be on the road!
@tkanos JavaScript has been going concurrent, in a way, via web workers for awhile now. Web workers are not standardized and are a glaring security hole, so I block them in my browsers where possible. But a good 1/3 of the web stops working when you do that.
It should have been made truly concurrent long ago, in my opinion, if only to bring ^^ that stuff back under some sort of standard.
@prologic dang that's a shame. Seems like a lot of work!
@prologic niceeeee
Is there some way I could do that when I add a new feed?
@prologic dude is a con artist whose family made its money via slave labor and who allowed such horrible racism at one of the Tesla plants to go unchallenged that the state of California sued Tesla over it. Whatever he does, it'll be a con aimed at enriching himself and his ego at the expense of every single other person involved, because that's the only thing he ever does.
@prologic yes, definitely many weeks ago. Don't put yourself out as far as adding a logo, but I won't complain if you do!
@prologic I set up a phoronix feed awhile ago and currently follow it.
I realized that when I first played with this I had my Google-managed work email and calendar logged in in open browser tabs, which probably explains most of the noise.
oops, didn't see that you'd already done that.
@lyse 🤷 I appreciate your perspective on this, and it's probably good for anyone following along to see multiple perspectives if they care about gopher. We all read and react to things differently, and I have to confess I hadn't thought about the fact that people were not non-native speakers before I wrote my twt.
@cobra me too. Now I'm going to be obsessed with silencing it!
@mckinley It looks like you can enter a comma-separated list of twitter accounts (without the leading @), and nitter will show you tweets from all of them. And then you can make an RSS feed out of that (which I haven't tried yet).
@mckinley on the one hand, I'm glad it's not beeping more than it is. On the other hand, it's beeping way too much.
@ocdtrekkie I'm trying to figure out how to view a list of accounts in nitter. Lists are all I read on twitter these days.
@movq idk, that sounds pretty hostile to me. The very first responses are to say "if there's TLS it's not gopher", and to post a rant against using TLS at all.
The first exhibits territorialism and gatekeeping, which is by definition hostile. It's also dismissive.
The second comes clean that they are posting a rant, and rants are hostile to an idea/set of ideas.
Not hostile in the sense that they are going to show up at your house and do violence. Hostile in the sense that they've made very clear that this question is not, in their opinions, worth considering.
Personally, I've left communities that had too many people exhibiting behavior like that. Life's too short to waste time with people who act that way.
Hiltjo's response, as you note, is not hostile, and feels welcoming. It treats the question as worth answering and provides information. It'd be nice if the first two people who responded simply hadn't, and Hiltjo's response was the first.
I have a lurker twitter account, but the moment the sale to Musk closes I'm deleting it.
There is construction next to the building I'm in and my building is shaking like there's an earthquake
it's so glitchy and retro and I love horror games YMMV, but $2.39!
If anyone's interested, Night Of The Scissors is on sale for US $2.39 on Steam, down from the exorbitant $2.99 they've been charging recently.
@phoronix Java 19 is a game changer with lightweight threads especially, and GraalVM code going to OpenJDK is pretty nice too
@eaplmx JMP.chat partners with snikket and if you get a JMP.chat number you can opt for them to run a hosted snikket instance for it at no charge. I follow the JMP.chat muc and their developers seem very competent and I trust their judgment.
@prologic it's a close up picture of a blue jay tail feather (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_jay ; a pretty common type of corvid up here). I found it sitting prominently on my doormat one day years ago as if it were placed there for some cosmic reason I was too limited to understand. I've been using it as an avatar ever since.
@prologic TLS is Transport Layer Security so it's hard to understand why someone would say it's not applicable to gopher?
@prologic I keep crashing into the sand dunes lol
@prologic I'll look at these next time I'm at my computer... too hard to read on my phone!
complain all you want about javascript--and I do--but you have to admit stuff like this is cool: https://slowroads.io/
Nighttime reading
gopher is not a healthy ecosystem. What happened in 2017-2018 to temporarily bump it up?
@mckinley I'm old enough that I used and got used to gopher before I encountered "the web", which I thought of as gopher with pictures for a long time
@eaplmx gopher solve the problem of not having enough burrows under your lawn
@mckinley it even has "go" in the name, but it's not written in go. I'm very disappointed.
@will briefly mining bitcoin on someone else's behalf is a small price to pay for 100 bytes of data! what would you prefer, having to actually pay out of pocket???
@eaplmx yes, that'd be awesome.
So, part of my Rant Against Browsers is that the tab/page/app/whatever is the unit of work in the brower for most people. Yet as an application, the web browser does not treat these things as such. You should be able to Create New/Open/Save/Save As tabs, just as you do with documents in a text editor. You should be able to name them, convert them to other formats, tag them, color code, them, and what have you. And no not as bookmarks, as first-class citizens in your application usage experience. You should be able to package together a bunch of tabs, give that a name, and save it/load it/give it to a friend. You should be able to fluidly move among these groups of tabs. I know some of this is hard to implement, but it's been sooooooo many years and plenty of time has passed to solve those kinds of problems.
Web browsers are still, after all this time, pretending to be "windows" into the web, but we don't use them that way anymore, and the UX is super awkward.
@akoizumi they literally say on their web site that they fix many of the pain points of darcs!
@tkanos of course. There are still too many. I am an Information Hoarder™
my main hangup is the lack of a self-hosted repo GUI like gitea or gitbucket.
I want to use Pijul instead of git so so bad.
@movq ugh, it won't be visible where I am. I'm envious!
@prologic OK I filed an issue. I wasn't able to change the pulldowns to make it an enhancement so it's in the default status.
@will oh I know. It's a constant source of frustration. I have a long rant about how web brower makers don't actually respond to user needs much anymore, and the tab is evidence.
I was just looking a plot of a function that you could zoom or unzoom with the mouse wheel. I decided to unzoom a bit, but sorta slipped on the mouse wheel. Before I knew it, the axes were saying things like 100Y. That turned out to be 100 yotta (10^26). I know that because as I started zooming back in I saw Z, then E, then P, then T, .... Anyhow, I'd say the zoom is a little too sensitive!
@cobra oh, I see. Yes, most apps seems to target only Android and IOS, not the Linux mobile OSes. I don't know much about Linux mobile. Is there any hope of running an emulator? I use Waydroid on my laptop and it runs Android apps remarkably well. I guess there'd be issues interfacing the hardware?
@cobra idk, I think there's lots of stuff on F-droid and related repos that isn't in the Google play store.
Once again I have so many browser tabs open that I can't click any of them because they're too small to accurately hit.
I like the app and am not complaining it's just that I like seeing the logos
