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@prologic It’s tempting, isn’t it? 😅 I’ll wait a little while longer, though. Maybe my pool craze wears off anyway.
@prologic It’s tempting, isn’t it? 😅 I’ll wait a little while longer, though. Maybe my pool craze wears off anyway.
@prologic It’s tempting, isn’t it? 😅 I’ll wait a little while longer, though. Maybe my pool craze wears off anyway.
Maybe I’ll get a 6 foot pool table some day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRuN2nqbJD4

It’s tiny, but it looks like it plays okay. 🤔
Maybe I’ll get a 6 foot pool table some day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRuN2nqbJD4

It’s tiny, but it looks like it plays okay. 🤔
Maybe I’ll get a 6 foot pool table some day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRuN2nqbJD4

It’s tiny, but it looks like it plays okay. 🤔
@prx Oh, nice, thanks. zbarcam-qt is much better than the gstreamer pipeline that I’ve been using before.
@prx Oh, nice, thanks. zbarcam-qt is much better than the gstreamer pipeline that I’ve been using before.
@prx Oh, nice, thanks. zbarcam-qt is much better than the gstreamer pipeline that I’ve been using before.
@lyse Gotta love that gloomy foggy atmosphere. 👌
@lyse Gotta love that gloomy foggy atmosphere. 👌
@lyse Gotta love that gloomy foggy atmosphere. 👌
@lyse Thanks :) Yeah, from up here, these thunderstorms appear much faster. Must be the perspective. :)
@lyse Thanks :) Yeah, from up here, these thunderstorms appear much faster. Must be the perspective. :)
@lyse Thanks :) Yeah, from up here, these thunderstorms appear much faster. Must be the perspective. :)
@lyse Lol, day of the thunderstorm, it seams. 😅
@lyse Lol, day of the thunderstorm, it seams. 😅
@lyse Lol, day of the thunderstorm, it seams. 😅
@stigatle Enjoy the cake! (… it’s a lie …)
@stigatle Enjoy the cake! (… it’s a lie …)
@stigatle Enjoy the cake! (… it’s a lie …)
Quick little thunderstorm that blew over in a couple of minutes: https://movq.de/v/9987a23722

There were people playing on a soccer field nearby, I guess they got pretty soaked.
Quick little thunderstorm that blew over in a couple of minutes: https://movq.de/v/9987a23722

There were people playing on a soccer field nearby, I guess they got pretty soaked.
Quick little thunderstorm that blew over in a couple of minutes: https://movq.de/v/9987a23722

There were people playing on a soccer field nearby, I guess they got pretty soaked.
@lyse @stigatle Damn right, time to take a break. Got a couple of days off now. I hope.
@lyse @stigatle Damn right, time to take a break. Got a couple of days off now. I hope.
@lyse @stigatle Damn right, time to take a break. Got a couple of days off now. I hope.
I’m so overworked and exhausted, I honestly can’t tell which day it is.

But hey, at least that Traefik update today went smoothly. So there’s that.
I’m so overworked and exhausted, I honestly can’t tell which day it is.

But hey, at least that Traefik update today went smoothly. So there’s that.
I’m so overworked and exhausted, I honestly can’t tell which day it is.

But hey, at least that Traefik update today went smoothly. So there’s that.
@lyse Ohh, lovely shots of that bird. 😊 That’s so close to the camera, are you hiding behind something? Or is the bird just not that shy?
@lyse Ohh, lovely shots of that bird. 😊 That’s so close to the camera, are you hiding behind something? Or is the bird just not that shy?
@lyse Ohh, lovely shots of that bird. 😊 That’s so close to the camera, are you hiding behind something? Or is the bird just not that shy?
@prologic Oh dear, get well soon. 😨
@prologic Oh dear, get well soon. 😨
@prologic Oh dear, get well soon. 😨
@prologic I’m very ambivalent on this. At the same time, I’m exhausted from work and life in general. 😅 I can’t form coherent thoughts at the moment. Maybe tomorrow. Or at the weekend.
@prologic I’m very ambivalent on this. At the same time, I’m exhausted from work and life in general. 😅 I can’t form coherent thoughts at the moment. Maybe tomorrow. Or at the weekend.
@prologic I’m very ambivalent on this. At the same time, I’m exhausted from work and life in general. 😅 I can’t form coherent thoughts at the moment. Maybe tomorrow. Or at the weekend.
@xuu @prologic Yarn.social without threading (as it would be the case in a “truncated” feed) does not make sense to me.

Put another way: Yarn.social is not twtxt. The content that we all have in our feeds really is much closer to a web forum or usenet or whatever. It’s threaded conversations. twtxt, as I *believe* it was originally intended, are short little status updates – that’s it. The formats of Yarn.social and twtxt might be very similar, but the content is vastly different and, in a way, incompatible. (As such, I *think* I understand very well that the original twtxt crowd is disgruntled.)

That proposed truncated feed doesn’t really provide any value, if you ask me. 🤔 It’d just be chaotic.
@xuu @prologic Yarn.social without threading (as it would be the case in a “truncated” feed) does not make sense to me.

Put another way: Yarn.social is not twtxt. The content that we all have in our feeds really is much closer to a web forum or usenet or whatever. It’s threaded conversations. twtxt, as I *believe* it was originally intended, are short little status updates – that’s it. The formats of Yarn.social and twtxt might be very similar, but the content is vastly different and, in a way, incompatible. (As such, I *think* I understand very well that the original twtxt crowd is disgruntled.)

That proposed truncated feed doesn’t really provide any value, if you ask me. 🤔 It’d just be chaotic.
@xuu @prologic Yarn.social without threading (as it would be the case in a “truncated” feed) does not make sense to me.

Put another way: Yarn.social is not twtxt. The content that we all have in our feeds really is much closer to a web forum or usenet or whatever. It’s threaded conversations. twtxt, as I *believe* it was originally intended, are short little status updates – that’s it. The formats of Yarn.social and twtxt might be very similar, but the content is vastly different and, in a way, incompatible. (As such, I *think* I understand very well that the original twtxt crowd is disgruntled.)

That proposed truncated feed doesn’t really provide any value, if you ask me. 🤔 It’d just be chaotic.
Found a magician: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LUZI8lMpZY
Found a magician: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LUZI8lMpZY
Found a magician: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LUZI8lMpZY
@abucci

Seatbelts and cars are so much simpler than software. It is easy to see that you might crash your car into a tree and that a belt will help you here (if you’re going slow enough, yadda yadda).

If I write a library for a compression algorithm, how can I ever prepare for someone using this in, I don’t know, a medical device in a hospital, but then my code has a bug, crashes that device and a person dies? There are so many more indirections here than with cars and seatbelts. It is completely out of my control.

Anyway, I think we both made our points clear. I’m out, cheers! 👋 🥃
@abucci

Seatbelts and cars are so much simpler than software. It is easy to see that you might crash your car into a tree and that a belt will help you here (if you’re going slow enough, yadda yadda).

If I write a library for a compression algorithm, how can I ever prepare for someone using this in, I don’t know, a medical device in a hospital, but then my code has a bug, crashes that device and a person dies? There are so many more indirections here than with cars and seatbelts. It is completely out of my control.

Anyway, I think we both made our points clear. I’m out, cheers! 👋 🥃
@abucci

Seatbelts and cars are so much simpler than software. It is easy to see that you might crash your car into a tree and that a belt will help you here (if you’re going slow enough, yadda yadda).

If I write a library for a compression algorithm, how can I ever prepare for someone using this in, I don’t know, a medical device in a hospital, but then my code has a bug, crashes that device and a person dies? There are so many more indirections here than with cars and seatbelts. It is completely out of my control.

Anyway, I think we both made our points clear. I’m out, cheers! 👋 🥃
@abucci

Yeah, we probably have to agree to disagree here.

I still think it would be better to put the burden of liability on the users – no matter if they’re private individuals or big companies. (And isn’t that already the case? Do we even have to solve a *legal liability problem*? Not talking about software quality here, that’s a whole other issue.)

> Trust me, if people got sued or went to jail, the tech industry would figure out really fast how to make these determinations.

Yeah, they would. It’s simple: No more free software, no more publicly available projects. The only software that would ever exist is software made by large corporations who can afford the appropriate insurances and lawyers.

What you’re proposing is either classifying software in advance as “dangerous” or “harmless” (I’d argue that’s impossible – as an extreme, think of libraries, they’d *all* be “potentially dangerous”), or threatening free software projects with lawsuits if, at some point in the future, these projects caused an accident.

Why would anyone publish free software or contribute to it under these conditions?

> Why should open source software development be any different?

IMHO because you can make software publicly available and anyone can use it for whatever they want, which the author has zero control over.

Anyway, have a good night, I’m gonna enjoy a couple of movies now. 👋 😊
@abucci

Yeah, we probably have to agree to disagree here.

I still think it would be better to put the burden of liability on the users – no matter if they’re private individuals or big companies. (And isn’t that already the case? Do we even have to solve a *legal liability problem*? Not talking about software quality here, that’s a whole other issue.)

> Trust me, if people got sued or went to jail, the tech industry would figure out really fast how to make these determinations.

Yeah, they would. It’s simple: No more free software, no more publicly available projects. The only software that would ever exist is software made by large corporations who can afford the appropriate insurances and lawyers.

What you’re proposing is either classifying software in advance as “dangerous” or “harmless” (I’d argue that’s impossible – as an extreme, think of libraries, they’d *all* be “potentially dangerous”), or threatening free software projects with lawsuits if, at some point in the future, these projects caused an accident.

Why would anyone publish free software or contribute to it under these conditions?

> Why should open source software development be any different?

IMHO because you can make software publicly available and anyone can use it for whatever they want, which the author has zero control over.

Anyway, have a good night, I’m gonna enjoy a couple of movies now. 👋 😊
@abucci

Yeah, we probably have to agree to disagree here.

I still think it would be better to put the burden of liability on the users – no matter if they’re private individuals or big companies. (And isn’t that already the case? Do we even have to solve a *legal liability problem*? Not talking about software quality here, that’s a whole other issue.)

> Trust me, if people got sued or went to jail, the tech industry would figure out really fast how to make these determinations.

Yeah, they would. It’s simple: No more free software, no more publicly available projects. The only software that would ever exist is software made by large corporations who can afford the appropriate insurances and lawyers.

What you’re proposing is either classifying software in advance as “dangerous” or “harmless” (I’d argue that’s impossible – as an extreme, think of libraries, they’d *all* be “potentially dangerous”), or threatening free software projects with lawsuits if, at some point in the future, these projects caused an accident.

Why would anyone publish free software or contribute to it under these conditions?

> Why should open source software development be any different?

IMHO because you can make software publicly available and anyone can use it for whatever they want, which the author has zero control over.

Anyway, have a good night, I’m gonna enjoy a couple of movies now. 👋 😊
@prologic Looks like here’s a markdown rendering bug. That last part (“How do you *really know* …”) is not part of the quoted text. 🤔
@prologic Looks like here’s a markdown rendering bug. That last part (“How do you *really know* …”) is not part of the quoted text. 🤔
@prologic Looks like here’s a markdown rendering bug. That last part (“How do you *really know* …”) is not part of the quoted text. 🤔
@abucci

> Firstly, contributing software to an open source project cannot be a blanket "get out of jail free" card. That's a sociopathic stance, on its face, and just cannot be accepted.

I don’t understand. Why is that sociopathic? (Language barrier here? I really don’t get what you mean.)

> But thirdly, […] And the same should happen in software. […]

How do you *really know* if a project has been used in dangerous situations? (If this changes in the future, are programmers that contributed in the past – when this project was not yet used in dangerous situations – also liable?)
@abucci

> Firstly, contributing software to an open source project cannot be a blanket "get out of jail free" card. That's a sociopathic stance, on its face, and just cannot be accepted.

I don’t understand. Why is that sociopathic? (Language barrier here? I really don’t get what you mean.)

> But thirdly, […] And the same should happen in software. […]

How do you *really know* if a project has been used in dangerous situations? (If this changes in the future, are programmers that contributed in the past – when this project was not yet used in dangerous situations – also liable?)
@abucci

> Firstly, contributing software to an open source project cannot be a blanket "get out of jail free" card. That's a sociopathic stance, on its face, and just cannot be accepted.

I don’t understand. Why is that sociopathic? (Language barrier here? I really don’t get what you mean.)

> But thirdly, […] And the same should happen in software. […]

How do you *really know* if a project has been used in dangerous situations? (If this changes in the future, are programmers that contributed in the past – when this project was not yet used in dangerous situations – also liable?)
@abucci Many (most?) licenses in the world of free software explicitly deny any liability (is that how you say it in English? I think you know what I mean). So, if a user still uses that software for “potentially dangerous” things, who’s to blame? The software? Or the user?

We Germans always have to make an analogy with cars 😅, so here you go: If there’s a guy on the street offering you a car and he says, “oh, maybe it’ll drive, maybe it’ll explode, who knows – either way, the risk is yours, I’m just offering it”, you might still be interested in using that car for certain things. But you wouldn’t use it as an ambulance car or a taxi or whatever. Or you might actually do that after carefully inspecting it and/or fixing some things.

So, if there actually are any liability issues here in the current laws – I know nothing about that field, especially not when it comes to *corporations* –, I think this should be fixed at the user’s end. You run a hospital? Then there are certain standards for you and you’re liable for certain things. If that implies that you can no longer use, say, nginx, then that’s not nginx’s problem, but yours.

I would argue that you *cannot* hold programmers liable if they contribute to a free software project that is publicly available, because you don’t know how this software is going to be used.

(Plus, I have a hard time imagining how you as a programmer could prove that you’ve done a good job. What’s the criterium here? Clearly, it can’t be “no bugs ever”. So, what is it, “no damage above 1000 dollars” or something like that? What does the EU thingy say here?)
@abucci Many (most?) licenses in the world of free software explicitly deny any liability (is that how you say it in English? I think you know what I mean). So, if a user still uses that software for “potentially dangerous” things, who’s to blame? The software? Or the user?

We Germans always have to make an analogy with cars 😅, so here you go: If there’s a guy on the street offering you a car and he says, “oh, maybe it’ll drive, maybe it’ll explode, who knows – either way, the risk is yours, I’m just offering it”, you might still be interested in using that car for certain things. But you wouldn’t use it as an ambulance car or a taxi or whatever. Or you might actually do that after carefully inspecting it and/or fixing some things.

So, if there actually are any liability issues here in the current laws – I know nothing about that field, especially not when it comes to *corporations* –, I think this should be fixed at the user’s end. You run a hospital? Then there are certain standards for you and you’re liable for certain things. If that implies that you can no longer use, say, nginx, then that’s not nginx’s problem, but yours.

I would argue that you *cannot* hold programmers liable if they contribute to a free software project that is publicly available, because you don’t know how this software is going to be used.

(Plus, I have a hard time imagining how you as a programmer could prove that you’ve done a good job. What’s the criterium here? Clearly, it can’t be “no bugs ever”. So, what is it, “no damage above 1000 dollars” or something like that? What does the EU thingy say here?)
@abucci Many (most?) licenses in the world of free software explicitly deny any liability (is that how you say it in English? I think you know what I mean). So, if a user still uses that software for “potentially dangerous” things, who’s to blame? The software? Or the user?

We Germans always have to make an analogy with cars 😅, so here you go: If there’s a guy on the street offering you a car and he says, “oh, maybe it’ll drive, maybe it’ll explode, who knows – either way, the risk is yours, I’m just offering it”, you might still be interested in using that car for certain things. But you wouldn’t use it as an ambulance car or a taxi or whatever. Or you might actually do that after carefully inspecting it and/or fixing some things.

So, if there actually are any liability issues here in the current laws – I know nothing about that field, especially not when it comes to *corporations* –, I think this should be fixed at the user’s end. You run a hospital? Then there are certain standards for you and you’re liable for certain things. If that implies that you can no longer use, say, nginx, then that’s not nginx’s problem, but yours.

I would argue that you *cannot* hold programmers liable if they contribute to a free software project that is publicly available, because you don’t know how this software is going to be used.

(Plus, I have a hard time imagining how you as a programmer could prove that you’ve done a good job. What’s the criterium here? Clearly, it can’t be “no bugs ever”. So, what is it, “no damage above 1000 dollars” or something like that? What does the EU thingy say here?)
Three hours of pool practice today. 👌 🎱
Three hours of pool practice today. 👌 🎱
Three hours of pool practice today. 👌 🎱
@lyse Nope, certainly not … 😭
@lyse Nope, certainly not … 😭
@lyse Nope, certainly not … 😭
@xuu Triggers some trauma.
@xuu Triggers some trauma.
@xuu Triggers some trauma.
@prologic Yes. 🥴
@prologic Yes. 🥴
@prologic Yes. 🥴
@prologic Well, here is a super-condensed version of it:

http://www.macscouter.com/stories/ShaggyShorts.asp#The%20Lever

Interestingly, it looks like it goes back to the 1950ies: https://www.reddit.com/r/NateTheSnake/comments/qobeny/tracing_nates_history/
@prologic Well, here is a super-condensed version of it:

http://www.macscouter.com/stories/ShaggyShorts.asp#The%20Lever

Interestingly, it looks like it goes back to the 1950ies: https://www.reddit.com/r/NateTheSnake/comments/qobeny/tracing_nates_history/
@prologic Well, here is a super-condensed version of it:

http://www.macscouter.com/stories/ShaggyShorts.asp#The%20Lever

Interestingly, it looks like it goes back to the 1950ies: https://www.reddit.com/r/NateTheSnake/comments/qobeny/tracing_nates_history/
@prologic I guess you skipped over the important bit then. %)
@prologic I guess you skipped over the important bit then. %)
@prologic I guess you skipped over the important bit then. %)
@eldersnake Ah, right, I forgot about that issue. Looks like this got resolved in libXft a while ago: https://lists.suckless.org/dev/2209/34965.html
@eldersnake Ah, right, I forgot about that issue. Looks like this got resolved in libXft a while ago: https://lists.suckless.org/dev/2209/34965.html
@eldersnake Ah, right, I forgot about that issue. Looks like this got resolved in libXft a while ago: https://lists.suckless.org/dev/2209/34965.html
@stigatle Oh yeah. It’s sad that smartphones and tablets pushed netbooks out of the market. They were great, proper keyboard, proper connectors, …
@stigatle Oh yeah. It’s sad that smartphones and tablets pushed netbooks out of the market. They were great, proper keyboard, proper connectors, …
@stigatle Oh yeah. It’s sad that smartphones and tablets pushed netbooks out of the market. They were great, proper keyboard, proper connectors, …
Oh dear. Starting/quitting st is so much faster and snappier, it almost feels like I bought a new computer. :|
Oh dear. Starting/quitting st is so much faster and snappier, it almost feels like I bought a new computer. :|
Oh dear. Starting/quitting st is so much faster and snappier, it almost feels like I bought a new computer. :|
I started using st as a terminal emulator, so you might see a decline in my use of colored emojis. :)

I previously used xiate, which is based on GTK and VTE – and that’s the problem. Sooner or later, it’ll have to be ported from GTK 3 to GTK 4 and that’s not looking too good at the moment. GTK 4 is too slow. I’m not yet convinced that I *have to* give up xiate, but I still want to see how well st works for me.
I started using st as a terminal emulator, so you might see a decline in my use of colored emojis. :)

I previously used xiate, which is based on GTK and VTE – and that’s the problem. Sooner or later, it’ll have to be ported from GTK 3 to GTK 4 and that’s not looking too good at the moment. GTK 4 is too slow. I’m not yet convinced that I *have to* give up xiate, but I still want to see how well st works for me.
I started using st as a terminal emulator, so you might see a decline in my use of colored emojis. :)

I previously used xiate, which is based on GTK and VTE – and that’s the problem. Sooner or later, it’ll have to be ported from GTK 3 to GTK 4 and that’s not looking too good at the moment. GTK 4 is too slow. I’m not yet convinced that I *have to* give up xiate, but I still want to see how well st works for me.
Brilliant (“joke, very long”): https://natethesnake.com/
Brilliant (“joke, very long”): https://natethesnake.com/
Brilliant (“joke, very long”): https://natethesnake.com/
@jlj Congrats, but, uhm, how does this work? Who’s the guy on the left? Do they hold a little ceremony like that for everyone who gets citizenship?! 😳
@jlj Congrats, but, uhm, how does this work? Who’s the guy on the left? Do they hold a little ceremony like that for everyone who gets citizenship?! 😳
@jlj Congrats, but, uhm, how does this work? Who’s the guy on the left? Do they hold a little ceremony like that for everyone who gets citizenship?! 😳
@lyse That’s cruel. 🥴
@lyse That’s cruel. 🥴
@lyse That’s cruel. 🥴
I guess this is something that you guys might enjoy as well: Jonna Enckell’s solo work. It’s a bit hard to find, though, and you can’t really buy it … Apparently, she didn’t make it big time. ☹️ (Jonna was the singer of a Death Metal band once, it was a glorious combination.) // Siren On - Glitter and Die // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkk6386SJwI #NowPlaying