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UX improvement ideas for the Yarn.social rebranding
@darch Fantastic post! Yeah, there's so much to do with this re-branding project: some of what you've raised could certainly be considered nice to have, while other things would be something that we'd want on yarn.social from Day 1, I think. But, yes, overall, I think we need a way to coordinate and prioritise, so when we get a moment, we can pick off low-hanging fruit, or really roll up our sleeves. I've started a GitHub repo where I'm playing around with the docs, but I think there must be a better way to do this, across all the ideas you've raised.
Just happened to read about FLOSS-UX, on lobste.rs; very timely! I haven't read it all yet, but I will: I think it's probably worth everyone on this re-branding project having a scan @prologic; certainly me, anyway, with my focus on presenting all the information about yarn.social. Also, it links to Taskcafe, which is the best contender I've seen to date for organising and project management.
thank you for putting this much thought and detail into helping us improve the user experience overall and getting this rebranding done! Thank you @darch ! 🙇‍♂️

As @jlj said we’ll have to work out a priority list and nice to have, etc...
thank you for putting this much thought and detail into helping us improve the user experience overall and getting this rebranding done! Thank you @darch ! 🙇‍♂️

As @jlj said we’ll have to work out a priority list and nice to have, etc...
thank you for putting this much thought and detail into helping us improve the user experience overall and getting this rebranding done! Thank you @darch ! 🙇‍♂️\n\nAs @jlj said we’ll have to work out a priority list and nice to have, etc...
@darch Great ideas, mate! While reading this and looking at your UI mock again, I got the idea of placing all the actions on a message (reply, edit, delete) in the message "header" on the right next to the author and time. This would save some space and provide more real estate for the actual contents. Since the messages are quite short, having to jump back for actions shouldn't pose a problem, I reckon. Not sure, how users with tiny screens will feel about this, though.
would it be an idea to set up a video call and go over our roadmap and priorities in a real time conversation?
@darch I think that’s a great idea! @antonio will want to be in on that too!
@darch I think that’s a great idea! @antonio will want to be in on that too!
@darch That's a great idea! I'm game for a call. Oh, and I run a Jitsi Meet server, FYI -- still tuning it, but it works OK for family calls. :-)
@darch @jlj Ooh tell me more about this Jitsi thingy? 😳
@darch @jlj Ooh tell me more about this Jitsi thingy? 😳
@jlj @prologic jitsi is really awesome alternative to zoom and all the other commercial alternatives
@jlj @darch Link?
@jlj @darch Link?
@jlj @prologic https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jitsi
@jlj @darch Thanks! I’ll check it out! 👌
@jlj @darch Thanks! I’ll check it out! 👌
@jlj @prologic also does anyone happen to have a eatherpad server or similarly, so we can easily co-write the roadmap and manifesto?
@jlj @darch We have a HackMD team account
@jlj @darch We have a HackMD team account
@jlj @darch I’ll add you both to it when I get home. Keeps everything as Markdown and in GitHub 👌
@jlj @darch I’ll add you both to it when I get home. Keeps everything as Markdown and in GitHub 👌
@prologic @darch re HackMD: Cool! Sounds ideal. :-) And my Jitsi Meet instance is running on the same server as my pod; guests can join calls, but you need an account to host one. That said, happy to create accounts for folks here. :-)
@jlj @prologic @lyse @adi @antonio I made a doodle so we can try to find a time that work for all of us https://doodle.com/poll/dgy9u2ssdv2ybzft
@darch Need to check my work calender, I'll have a look tomorrow.
@jlj @lyse @adi @antonio @darch responded
@jlj @lyse @adi @antonio @darch responded
@darch @lyse @antonio @jlj @prologic Thanks for the invite but I'll have to skip, I prefer text these days, I'll comment on your documents if it's the case.
@darch @lyse @antonio @jlj @prologic Thanks for the invite but I'll have to skip, I prefer text these days, I'll comment on your documents if it's the case.
@adi No worries!
@adi No worries!
@lyse @adi @antonio @prologic @darch Good idea! I've added my availability.
@darch I submitted my times (works pretty much any time).
@lyse @jlj @prologic Anyone else who you think would want to participate? It looks like Friday 5th or Saturday 6th at 20:00 CET is a possible time for all, if doodle did at proper job with the timezones.
@darch I believe @xuu and @movq are good candidates, too.
@lyse @xuu @movq @prologic Please give a final vote for Friday or Saturday at https://doodle.com/poll/dgy9u2ssdv2ybzft\nAnd @jlj will make us a jiti link?
@lyse @xuu @movq @prologic Please give a final vote for Friday or Saturday at https://doodle.com/poll/dgy9u2ssdv2ybzft
And @jlj will make us a jiti link?
@darch @lyse @xuu @movq @prologic Sure. :-) https://meet.nfld.uk/yarn -- I'll try to be in there ten minutes, for whichever day we go with, but there's a lobby to wait in, regardless. :-)
@darch Not sure how I am supposed to vote. Doodle doesn't give me any controls. But both days are fine with me. No preference.
@darch @jlj @prologic Anything to prepare for the meeting?
@darch @jlj @lyse Yes do you need me to prepare anything? 🤔
@darch @jlj @lyse Yes do you need me to prepare anything? 🤔
@prologic @darch @lyse cc @movq Re prep, I'd be happy to just have a general discussion at this point. Make sure we all agree on how to coordinate, via HackMD, I guess, what the broad priorities are, any big issues, etc. Btw, is it today or tomorrow?
@darch @lyse @jlj Tomorrow morning for me 🤣 5am Sat 😂
@darch @lyse @jlj Tomorrow morning for me 🤣 5am Sat 😂
@lyse @prologic @darch Yikes! Yeah, OK, that's 19.00 BST for me, this evening, I believe. Cheers. FYI, I'll get on, to host and make sure all's well, but then I'll pop off for a bit to help with kids' bedtimes, before reappearing. Hope that's OK.
@jlj @lyse @darch It'll be fine! We'll get someone to take notes 🤣
@jlj @lyse @darch It'll be fine! We'll get someone to take notes 🤣
@lyse @darch @prologic :-D Thank you! We *can* actually record the session... Well, I assume I have the disk space for that. :-) Or just take minutes. :-D Happy either way. Thanks, all. My availability is definitely towards the latter half of that two-hour window. :-)
@jlj @lyse @prologic We can also meet a bit later tonight / tomorrow morning if that suit everyone better. So is 20 UTC good for everyone? Re the agenda: yeah bring your ideas and we will have yarn about what to focus of all our dev ideas.
@lyse @prologic @darch Nice use of yarn there. :-D I mean, an hour later is perfect for me -- well, assuming my daughter isn't sick all over me like she was during last night's bedtime! -- but I don't want to inconvenience others. :-)
@jlj @lyse @darch Yeah an hour later is fine by me!
@jlj @lyse @darch Yeah an hour later is fine by me!
@darch @jlj @prologic Yes, 20:00 UTC is fine.
So, now that I have a Matrix homeserver running, I'm naturally thinking about how to usefully employ it. :-P What do you all think of having a bridge between it and #yarn.social on Freenode? It doesn't look trivial to set up, but I bet it'd be fun; and then we'd have an indexed history of the channel, for when our many new users start asking questions and looking for answers. ;-D
@jlj Some mates are using IRC matrix bridges and they appear to work quite alright.
@jlj @lyse Who uses IRC anyway except for us old farts 🤣
@jlj @lyse Who uses IRC anyway except for us old farts 🤣
@lyse @prologic So what you're saying we should provide support solely in a Matrix room. ;-D (And on our pods, of course!)
@jlj Hah! 🤣 Well pod owner/operators are feee to support their users however they wish!

Right now by default the built in support page of pods uses email 😁 That’s the ‘—admin-email’ setting 👈
@jlj Hah! 🤣 Well pod owner/operators are feee to support their users however they wish!

Right now by default the built in support page of pods uses email 😁 That’s the ‘—admin-email’ setting 👈
@jlj Hah! 🤣 Well pod owner/operators are feee to support their users however they wish!\n\nRight now by default the built in support page of pods uses email 😁 That’s the ‘—admin-email’ setting 👈