I recently switched from custom scripted tiling in fluxbox to herbstluftwm, love it so much, I'm still thinking if worth trying bspwm and ratpoison.
@novaburst @lyse Any experience with them?
I recently switched from custom scripted tiling in fluxbox to herbstluftwm, love it so much, I'm still thinking if worth trying bspwm and ratpoison.
@novaburst @lyse Any experience with them?
i hope to make a final leap soon. for years we joked about distro-hopping now it's wm/de-hopping :-)
cwm on OpenBSD
sheds tear of joy
Ratpoison work like tmux for it's commands, I already tried it and it feels nice, but it's a mess on forced floating windows, I'm not sure if conky will survive if I set it there, maybe I'll try on my spare laptop when bored.
@mutefall I too started with xfce but then I wanted less and less and ended up with fluxbox for quite a while then I switched to herbstluftwm for its tiling.
.Xresources when I'll get my laptop, looks really good.
Trying GNOME back then was a disaster, because it didn't offer much configurability. And their dialog philiosophy with only the "Close" button was terrible for me, because when I played along with all the settings (granted, there weren't many), I couldn't just change my mind and simply cancel. As I was used to from KDE. I didn't relly like that things immediately changed in GNOME when I modified a setting. I prefered to hit "Apply" or "OK". Or "Cancel" if in the middle of the experiment I thought that I went down the wrong track. This is still a superior flow I deeply believe even today. Undo is powerful.
Nowadays GNOME is just a piece of utter garbage, all the configurability is lost. With each release features are removed. No thanks. I cannot work with that. At least, that's what mates tell me who still are using GNOME. They're all upset constantly. Every time. I'm so glad that I'm on i3 today and don't need to worry about such shit.
So after my first bad GNOME experience I went straight back to KDE. Shortly after I gave Xfce a try, which was even worse. No configurability at all. So I immediately reached out for my beloved KDE once again.
With newer KDE versions and even Plasma I had to leave that field, though. Things went capsize, a lot of things became quite unstable. Not very pleasant. That's when I tried tiling window managers. They were cool, but I reckon I went back to KDE a few more times and then disappointedly turned away again. I grew a stronger and stronger fascination for tiling window managers with each new attempt. Today I know for sure that they are the holy grail. No doubt. They really are.
Trying GNOME back then was a disaster, because it didn't offer much configurability. And their dialog philiosophy with only the "Close" button was terrible for me, because when I played along with all the settings (granted, there weren't many), I couldn't just change my mind and simply cancel. As I was used to from KDE. I didn't relly like that things immediately changed in GNOME when I modified a setting. I prefered to hit "Apply" or "OK". Or "Cancel" if in the middle of the experiment I thought that I went down the wrong track. This is still a superior flow I deeply believe even today. Undo is powerful.
Nowadays GNOME is just a piece of utter garbage, all the configurability is lost. With each release features are removed. No thanks. I cannot work with that. At least, that's what mates tell me who still are using GNOME. They're all upset constantly. Every time. I'm so glad that I'm on i3 today and don't need to worry about such shit.
So after my first bad GNOME experience I went straight back to KDE. Shortly after I gave Xfce a try, which was even worse. No configurability at all. So I immediately reached out for my beloved KDE once again.
With newer KDE versions and even Plasma I had to leave that field, though. Things went capsize, a lot of things became quite unstable. Not very pleasant. That's when I tried tiling window managers. They were cool, but I reckon I went back to KDE a few more times and then disappointedly turned away again. I grew a stronger and stronger fascination for tiling window managers with each new attempt. Today I know for sure that they are the holy grail. No doubt. They really are.
fluxbox it's minimal approach to things really made me smile. but i stuck with xfce simply out of old habits, which i'm trying to break and develop newer ones. :-)@adi i thought you already had your laptop? or is it still en route?
circa 98 and for many years hopped back and forth to it. there was something i wasn't really happy about and i think it was at the time i was on a very minimal machine and it felt a bit sluggish. also the default file manager i had some sort of grunt about. xfce is configurable to an extent, but you really have to dig deep to make it do your bidding.
gnome to me is not terrible but it seems to be following a similar pattern to macos in that every desktop looks and feels the same and the deep customisation is pulled far away
i'm one of those operators that moves very slow and is change-resistant until either
a.) i've hit a wall or b.) the wall has fallen on my head i3 really fits the bill, but now i'm focusing on erasing what seems like an aeon of muscle memory. but on the + side i can easily customise it to make it more me.
.dotfiles anyone care to share a repository so i can store your configurations on the ark along with seeds, precious cargo, and slackware disks?
I went through quite a bit of them, from KDE, GNOME 2/3, Enlightenment, and a couple others, since coming from Windows and wanting to be minimal I found xfce to tick all my needs at the time.
I switched out of my constant "needing less" that I keep constantly looking for in my work and tools in general.
My switch to herbstluftwm is kinda funny.
At first I loved fluxbox for how minimal it was, then I started removing pieces, the title label, he buttons, and finally the window decoration entirely. Then it was the turn of the toolbar, which I replaced with tint2, then I noticed that I was manually tiling everything, so I used pytile, kinda buggy but worked, then I wanted something decent for tiling and landed on herbstluftwm.
cwm because it's more Plan9 rio-sh.
:chefs_kiss but more research is needed. :-)@adi we have much to talk about regarding plan9
Just two notes that made me struggle at the beginning.
The
autostart file is not in your home folder, you have to copy it yourself from the default one (or look at their GitHub), and make sure the file is executable or it won't work.The
autostart can be written in any language as long that you write a proper shebang, you can even mix languages or split the configuration.
frantech by chance?
i may try to dance this wm for a week and see if i pull out my hair or not :-)
i fell asleep in my office chair last night. time to go stretch soon