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Hey @prologic, are you planning on switching git.mills.io over to Forgejo when it launches?
@abucci But I _thought_ Gitea promised to keep their open source version free? đ¤ Have they gone back on that now?? đ¤Śââď¸
@abucci But I _thought_ Gitea promised to keep their open source version free? đ¤ Have they gone back on that now?? đ¤Śââď¸
@abucci But I _thought_ Gitea promised to keep their open source version free? đ¤ Have they gone back on that now?? đ¤Śââď¸
@abucci But I _thought_ Gitea promised to keep their open source version free? đ¤ Have they gone back on that now?? đ¤Śââď¸
@prologic no, they will still keep the open source free, and will continue the development of it. From your point of view, nothing, absolutely nothing has changed, and there are zero reasons for switching.
@prologic sure, sure, but you know that promise is fungible, especially the moment the corporate entity sees big profits in reducing the scope of their promise, or hits a financial wall and has no choice. The only promise worth anything from a corporation is one that could get them into a lawsuit they might lose. Forgejo claims to be a drop-in replacement, and they aim to be community driven, so đ¤ˇ
I don't have super strong opinions about such things. I was just adding context to @ocdtrekkie's post since they hadn't yet and you asked. Personally I think most entities shy of fully worker-owned coops are doomed to be horrible at some point in the current economic environment, but there aren't very many of those.
@bender meh, no promise from a corporate is worth believing. The moment they think they can make big money from mucking with the "open source" version, or the moment they hit a financial wall where they feel like they have to do that to save the corporation, they almost surely will. That's always been the way of things with these corporate-steward "open source" projects.
And even if the current owners are well-intentioned, all it takes is one buyout, one resignation, one gigantic investor, etc etc etc to change that dynamic.
That said, I personally don't believe it matters much because virtually any entity, including foundations and other non-corporate structures, are similarly vulnerable in the current economic climate. But let's not give corporations more credit than they deserve.
@bender meh, no promise from a corporate is worth believing. The moment they think they can make big money from mucking with the "open source" version, or the moment they hit a financial wall where they feel like they have to do that to save the corporation, they almost surely will. That's always been the way of things with these corporate-steward "open source" projects.
And even if the current owners are well-intentioned, all it takes is one buyout, one resignation, one gigantic investor, etc etc etc to change that dynamic.
That said, I personally don't believe it matters much because virtually any entity, including foundations and other non-corporate structures, are similarly vulnerable in the current economic climate.
@bender meh, no promise from a corporation is worth believing. The moment they think they can make big money from mucking with the "open source" version, or the moment they hit a financial wall where they feel like they have to do that to save the corporation, they almost surely will. That's always been the way of things with these corporate-steward "open source" projects.
And even if the current owners are well-intentioned, all it takes is one buyout, one resignation, one gigantic investor, etc etc etc to change that dynamic.
That said, I personally don't believe it matters much because virtually any entity, including foundations and other non-corporate structures, are similarly vulnerable in the current economic climate. But let's not give corporations more credit than they deserve.
@bender @prologic One of the big things Forgejo is working on is federation support, so you can contribute to projects on various code forge servers from your own. Forgejo is led by a bunch of Gitea contributors who were blindsided by the corporate push.
But right now it is a soft fork, so it is yet to be seen how much they will diverge in the near future.
@ocdtrekkie oi, you mentioned the âFâ (federation) word. Enough for @prologic not to even touch it. :-P
@ocdtrekkie @bender The whole ActivityPub integration of Gitea for so-called "Federation" (which btw is a bullshit term) is just total nonsense. I mean I "get it", and understand the motivations behind it, but FFS, it would have been done without ActivityPub đ¤Śââď¸
@ocdtrekkie @bender The whole ActivityPub integration of Gitea for so-called "Federation" (which btw is a bullshit term) is just total nonsense. I mean I "get it", and understand the motivations behind it, but FFS, it would have been done without ActivityPub đ¤Śââď¸
@ocdtrekkie @bender The whole ActivityPub integration of Gitea for so-called "Federation" (which btw is a bullshit term) is just total nonsense. I mean I "get it", and understand the motivations behind it, but FFS, it would have been done without ActivityPub đ¤Śââď¸
@ocdtrekkie @bender The whole ActivityPub integration of Gitea for so-called "Federation" (which btw is a bullshit term) is just total nonsense. I mean I "get it", and understand the motivations behind it, but FFS, it would have been done without ActivityPub đ¤Śââď¸
@prologic Working on fixing that! Some prototyping of doing Cap'n Proto capabilities instead!