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been using the iphone for some days now, and I must say im impressed. I really like it. I will not buy android phone ever again.
@stigatle it's just made so much better 😆
@stigatle it's just made so much better 😆
@stigatle it's just made so much better 😆
@stigatle People really are different. 😅 I can’t stand Apple stuff *at all*.

The only good thing is that they support iPhones for a long-ish time. The Android ecosystem is so ridiculously fucked up in that regard. Especially when you buy cheap Android phones, they are pretty much guaranteed to never receive updates … I almost think this should be illegal.
@stigatle People really are different. 😅 I can’t stand Apple stuff *at all*.

The only good thing is that they support iPhones for a long-ish time. The Android ecosystem is so ridiculously fucked up in that regard. Especially when you buy cheap Android phones, they are pretty much guaranteed to never receive updates … I almost think this should be illegal.
@stigatle People really are different. 😅 I can’t stand Apple stuff *at all*.

The only good thing is that they support iPhones for a long-ish time. The Android ecosystem is so ridiculously fucked up in that regard. Especially when you buy cheap Android phones, they are pretty much guaranteed to never receive updates … I almost think this should be illegal.
@movq What is ti that you don't like about Apple products? 🤔
@movq What is ti that you don't like about Apple products? 🤔
@movq What is ti that you don't like about Apple products? 🤔
@prologic I’ll try to write a proper answer when I’m in a better mood. 😅 At the moment, I’m unbelievably pissed (because of other things). 🤣
@prologic I’ll try to write a proper answer when I’m in a better mood. 😅 At the moment, I’m unbelievably pissed (because of other things). 🤣
@prologic I’ll try to write a proper answer when I’m in a better mood. 😅 At the moment, I’m unbelievably pissed (because of other things). 🤣
@movq Fair 🤗
@movq Fair 🤗
@movq Fair 🤗
@movq I've got good news for you, in Europe "software updates will also have to be made available for at least 5 years after retiring a product from the market".
@movq I've got good news for you, in Europe "software updates will also have to be made available for at least 5 years after retiring a product from the market".
@marado Oh wow. 🤔 Let’s see how well that works in practice.

(I’d still prefer it if smartphones/tablets were more like the PC world, where installing arbitrary OSes is the norm: Nobody stops me from running a current Linux distro on my 15 year old machine. But I’m afraid that ship has sailed.)
@marado Oh wow. 🤔 Let’s see how well that works in practice.

(I’d still prefer it if smartphones/tablets were more like the PC world, where installing arbitrary OSes is the norm: Nobody stops me from running a current Linux distro on my 15 year old machine. But I’m afraid that ship has sailed.)
@marado Oh wow. 🤔 Let’s see how well that works in practice.

(I’d still prefer it if smartphones/tablets were more like the PC world, where installing arbitrary OSes is the norm: Nobody stops me from running a current Linux distro on my 15 year old machine. But I’m afraid that ship has sailed.)
Yeah, I also hate Apple and their products with passion. These people have an evil philosophy. I'm not free to choose, they lock me in. I'm not allowed to do what I want with my devices. Similar to a lot of other companies they claim to know what's good for me, but fuck them, they clearly don't. Being infantilized pisses me off. I don't feel being taken seriously, in fact they give a shit about their customers. Apple garbage is ridiculously expensive for no reason other than to milk their fanboys. Developing for their ecosystem requires additional expensive licenses. By default they ship hopelessly outdated things like bash 3 or whatever ancient version (rival Debian or what?). They tell everyone without batting an eye that they invented cool new things, even though these invention existed for plenty of years and were made by others. Finally, the UI is just not intuitive to me. Years back I had an Android company mobile phone that sucked, but my current company iPhone is several times worse. I'm sure, @movq can put all that into better words one day. :-)
@lyse Well, lots of curse words, but it sums up my thoughts pretty nicely. 😅
@lyse Well, lots of curse words, but it sums up my thoughts pretty nicely. 😅
@lyse Well, lots of curse words, but it sums up my thoughts pretty nicely. 😅
@movq Cursing liberates the soul. :-D
@prologic To elaborate a bit more:

I’m a control freak and a tinkerer. Almost everything I do in the realm of computers is about understanding how it works and being able to tweak it. I rarely care about “just getting things done”.

And I’m tired of fighting. Sure, what I want to do *might be possible* on macOS or Windows or Android or whatever – but those systems are not *meant* to be used like I want to. On the other hand, Linux and BSD give me all the tools I need and they don’t get in my way (usually – OpenBSD can be quite opinionated).

Smartphones and tablets are a lost cause to me. Most manufacturers obviously hate it if the user is in control of anything, so they lock it all down. Android is the lesser evil (last time I tried it wasn’t *that hard* to write your Android app, but that was like 10 years ago) and it offers you slightly more options than iOS (simple things like settings your own ringtone …), but it’s still not something that I enjoy using.

More: gopher://uninformativ.de/0/phlog/2021-08/2021-08-25--the-ideal-smartphone.txt
@prologic To elaborate a bit more:

I’m a control freak and a tinkerer. Almost everything I do in the realm of computers is about understanding how it works and being able to tweak it. I rarely care about “just getting things done”.

And I’m tired of fighting. Sure, what I want to do *might be possible* on macOS or Windows or Android or whatever – but those systems are not *meant* to be used like I want to. On the other hand, Linux and BSD give me all the tools I need and they don’t get in my way (usually – OpenBSD can be quite opinionated).

Smartphones and tablets are a lost cause to me. Most manufacturers obviously hate it if the user is in control of anything, so they lock it all down. Android is the lesser evil (last time I tried it wasn’t *that hard* to write your Android app, but that was like 10 years ago) and it offers you slightly more options than iOS (simple things like settings your own ringtone …), but it’s still not something that I enjoy using.

More: gopher://uninformativ.de/0/phlog/2021-08/2021-08-25--the-ideal-smartphone.txt
@prologic To elaborate a bit more:

I’m a control freak and a tinkerer. Almost everything I do in the realm of computers is about understanding how it works and being able to tweak it. I rarely care about “just getting things done”.

And I’m tired of fighting. Sure, what I want to do *might be possible* on macOS or Windows or Android or whatever – but those systems are not *meant* to be used like I want to. On the other hand, Linux and BSD give me all the tools I need and they don’t get in my way (usually – OpenBSD can be quite opinionated).

Smartphones and tablets are a lost cause to me. Most manufacturers obviously hate it if the user is in control of anything, so they lock it all down. Android is the lesser evil (last time I tried it wasn’t *that hard* to write your Android app, but that was like 10 years ago) and it offers you slightly more options than iOS (simple things like settings your own ringtone …), but it’s still not something that I enjoy using.

More: gopher://uninformativ.de/0/phlog/2021-08/2021-08-25--the-ideal-smartphone.txt
@movq Btw, if you want a more "tinkerer-friendly" smartphone... Linux on smartphones is becoming a thing again. Have you checked out a device like the PinePhone lately?
@shreyan Hmm, no, I’ve lost track of Pine stuff a while ago. 🤔 Maybe I’ll have another look some day.
@shreyan Hmm, no, I’ve lost track of Pine stuff a while ago. 🤔 Maybe I’ll have another look some day.
@shreyan Hmm, no, I’ve lost track of Pine stuff a while ago. 🤔 Maybe I’ll have another look some day.
@movq Yeah, good points. Interesting idea regarding your ideal smartphone. I just don't want to carry a device around with me, simply no need. :-)
@lyse @movq yea interesting hypothetical ideal "smartphone". You're not the only one with this ideal in mind btw 🤗
@lyse @movq yea interesting hypothetical ideal "smartphone". You're not the only one with this ideal in mind btw 🤗
@lyse @movq yea interesting hypothetical ideal "smartphone". You're not the only one with this ideal in mind btw 🤗
Funny.. I would never buy an iPhone again. My wife switched back this last phone update and I can't stand the interface.
Funny.. I would never buy an iPhone again. My wife switched back this last phone update and I can't stand the interface.
If you are going to compare iPhone with android you can't just throw out bargan bin android phones.. Should compare within the same price points like the Pixel, Galaxy, Pine, or OnePlus models.
If you are going to compare iPhone with android you can't just throw out bargan bin android phones.. Should compare within the same price points like the Pixel, Galaxy, Pine, or OnePlus models.
@xuu O guess it's what you get used to on some level -- For example I'll never go back to Android as I find the UI/UX just awful 🤦‍♂️
@xuu O guess it's what you get used to on some level -- For example I'll never go back to Android as I find the UI/UX just awful 🤦‍♂️
@xuu O guess it's what you get used to on some level -- For example I'll never go back to Android as I find the UI/UX just awful 🤦‍♂️