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**Google Requiring All 'G Suite Legacy Free Edition' Users To Start Paying for Workspace this Year**
An anonymous reader shares a report: In 2020, G Suite became Google Workspace as part of a mass reorganization of the company's apps for the "future of work." Various plans were migrated over, and Google is now finally getting rid of the G Suite legacy free edition. "Google Apps" for bu ... â Read more
Oh well that means goodbye to our grandfathered FREE Google Apps domain/account ðĪĶââïļ It was good while it lasted some ~16 years ð cc @kt84 @becrobinson86
Oh well that means goodbye to our grandfathered FREE Google Apps domain/account ðĪĶââïļ It was good while it lasted some ~16 years ð cc @kt84 @becrobinson86
@ullarah Considering the cost to me if I were to pay Google Workspace or something equivalent, more than ~$60 AUD per month for the users I have on my @shortcircuit.net.au domain -- I'm considering migrating off, to my own infra (_kind of the point of Self Hosted -- the company -- and why I'm doing this_) and _probabpy_ pay for a MX backup service (_because Internet in Australia is shit_).
Q: Do you know of any good MX backup services from any Aussie hosters/datacenters? ðĪ (_I'd rather keep it in-country if I can_)
@ullarah Considering the cost to me if I were to pay Google Workspace or something equivalent, more than ~$60 AUD per month for the users I have on my @shortcircuit.net.au domain -- I'm considering migrating off, to my own infra (_kind of the point of Self Hosted -- the company -- and why I'm doing this_) and _probabpy_ pay for a MX backup service (_because Internet in Australia is shit_).
Q: Do you know of any good MX backup services from any Aussie hosters/datacenters? ðĪ (_I'd rather keep it in-country if I can_)
Hmmm ðĪ According to some of the comments on this reddit post I _may_ not have to really worry or care about a backup MX.
Hmmm ðĪ According to some of the comments on this reddit post I _may_ not have to really worry or care about a backup MX.
@prologic a backup MX is only useful beyond the default retries has expired. Your main would have to be down for more than 3 days (maybe even more) before you lose mail.
@fastidious Yeah I _believe_ you are correct. The RFC(s) if implemented correctly state at least 4-5 days of retries. This is unlikely, almost zero chance of happening despite how bad Australian NBN and Australian Internet is ð
@fastidious Yeah I _believe_ you are correct. The RFC(s) if implemented correctly state at least 4-5 days of retries. This is unlikely, almost zero chance of happening despite how bad Australian NBN and Australian Internet is ð
So here are basically my options:
- Migrate to Google Workspace at a cost of $70/month (_based on the no. of users on my domain_)
- Migrate to an Australian Email provider Fastmail at a cost of $40/month
- Migrate to the Mills DC infra at a cost of $0/month
Hmmm tough choice ðĪ cc @kt84 @hellson @becrobinson86 @off_grid_living
So here are basically my options:
- Migrate to Google Workspace at a cost of $70/month (_based on the no. of users on my domain_)
- Migrate to an Australian Email provider Fastmail at a cost of $40/month
- Migrate to the Mills DC infra at a cost of $0/month
Hmmm tough choice ðĪ cc @kt84 @hellson @becrobinson86 @off_grid_living
@prologic as long as it is user friendly. not all the users have computer science degrees.. ðĪŠ
@kt84 look at it this way, if it doesn't suit you well, and you encounter problems, you will have support right there, 24/7 to solve them, otherwise there is a couch where support can sleep. ð
@fastidious _Comes close to spitting coffee_ Not wrong ð