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A calm, reasoned take on the Stallman situation (some language warning as the creator doesn't mind dropping an F-bomb now and then): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLHxY-QsQkQ
What a terrible video. "Cancel culture" is not a thing, and when you hear someone complaining about it, 99% of the time they just don't want consequences for bad behavior.
What a terrible video. "Cancel culture" is not a thing, and when you hear someone complaining about it, 99% of the time they just don't want consequences for bad behavior.
@anth So I take it you’re implying that Richard Stallman is guilty of poor/bad behavior? (I haven’t watch the video yet)
@anth So I take it you’re implying that Richard Stallman is guilty of poor/bad behavior? (I haven’t watch the video yet)
cancel culture is absolutely a thing IMO. The standards pushed online by the puritans will never hold up as humans are flawed and will always make mistakes, so this cancel anyone for so much as having an ill opinion or thinking differently trend is extremely dangerous IMO. And no doubt bad actors will use it to their advantage for ulterior motives.
@eldersnake What kind of flawed? Depends on what you understand by "mistake"?
@eldersnake What kind of flawed? Depends on what you understand by "mistake"?
I can't believe it's controversial to say "somebody with a 30+ year history making women uncomfortable shouldn't be in a leadership position". That's not "cancel culture", it's just friggin' obvious.
I can't believe it's controversial to say "somebody with a 30+ year history making women uncomfortable shouldn't be in a leadership position". That's not "cancel culture", it's just friggin' obvious.
Nobody's saying he can't write code any more (I mean, I think his code is crap and wish he'd stop, but that's another issue). But he should not be on any board, should not be in any leadership position, should not be held up as a role model or even vaguely okay.
Nobody's saying he can't write code any more (I mean, I think his code is crap and wish he'd stop, but that's another issue). But he should not be on any board, should not be in any leadership position, should not be held up as a role model or even vaguely okay.
Nobody's saying he can't write code any more (I mean, I think his code is crap and wish he'd stop, but that's another issue). But he should not be on any board, should nit be in any leadership position, should not be held up as a role model or even vaguely okay.
@eldersnake It's always "a different opinion" but in my experience when you go have a look at it it's a "bigoted opinion". I wish people would be more careful to use specific examples when discussing this topic as it would prevent a lot of confusion and ill will.
@adi I'm just saying that absolutely nobody is perfect, in a general sense. And mobs pushing to put others down or "cancel" them based on something they once online said eons ago is a bad path, though there's always exceptions. Regarding Stallman though, i dont necessarily disagree with him not being suited to leadership roles simply because he doesnt exactly make a good spokesman or public facing figure, but thats the main reason. Most of this smells of software corporates wanting to get rid of a very outspoken opponent and some SJWs jumping on for the ride. Just my opinion.
@eldersnake I agree with most of what you said.\n\n> And mobs pushing to put others down or “cancel” them based on something they once online said eons ago is a bad path\n\nAs long as the "bad" opinion has changed in the meantime, I see no reason to "cancel" them.\n\n> Most of this smells of software corporates wanting to get rid of a very outspoken opponent and some SJWs jumping on for the ride.\n\nWhy get rid of him?
@eldersnake I agree with most of what you said.\n\n> And mobs pushing to put others down or “cancel” them based on something they once online said eons ago is a bad path\n\nAs long as the "bad" opinion has changed in the meantime, I see no reason to "cancel" them.\n\n> Most of this smells of software corporates wanting to get rid of a very outspoken opponent and some SJWs jumping on for the ride.\n\nWhy get rid of him?
@eldersnake I agree with most of what you said.

> And mobs pushing to put others down or “cancel” them based on something they once online said eons ago is a bad path

As long as the "bad" opinion has changed in the meantime, I see no reason to "cancel" them.

> Most of this smells of software corporates wanting to get rid of a very outspoken opponent and some SJWs jumping on for the ride.

Why get rid of him?