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The problem I have is that adding features to flag/moderate/delete Twts is 100% against our originally set out goals. The way I see things is quite simple, if you as an individual don't like some content that someone posted that you decided to follow, well then a) You followed them! b) You are free to Unfollow them c) You are free to go run your own Pod or join another Pod. Being completely decentralised we avoid some aspects of tpo-heavy content both good and bad. But I'm not sure if this is enough?
The problem I have is that adding features to flag/moderate/delete Twts is 100% against our originally set out goals. The way I see things is quite simple, if you as an individual don't like some content that someone posted that you decided to follow, well then a) You followed them! b) You are free to Unfollow them c) You are free to go run your own Pod or join another Pod. Being completely decentralised we avoid some aspects of tpo-heavy content both good and bad. But I'm not sure if this is enough?
The problem I have is that adding features to flag/moderate/delete Twts is 100% against our originally set out goals. The way I see things is quite simple, if you as an individual don't like some content that someone posted that you decided to follow, well then a) You followed them! b) You are free to Unfollow them c) You are free to go run your own Pod or join another Pod. Being completely decentralised we avoid some aspects of tpo-heavy content both good and bad. But I'm not sure if this is enough?
I _should_ also point out that the micro.Blog iOS App does not appear to have any content flagging/reporting/moderation tools in the App. I'm asking @manton about this on micro.Blog to see how they got around this. Perhaps its enough to set an age restriction of 17+ on Goryon?
I _should_ also point out that the micro.Blog iOS App does not appear to have any content flagging/reporting/moderation tools in the App. I'm asking @manton about this on micro.Blog to see how they got around this. Perhaps its enough to set an age restriction of 17+ on Goryon?
I _should_ also point out that the micro.Blog iOS App does not appear to have any content flagging/reporting/moderation tools in the App. I'm asking @manton about this on micro.Blog to see how they got around this. Perhaps its enough to set an age restriction of 17+ on Goryon?
@prologic @antonio I'm pretty sure I've seen one social network having their app deleted from both app stores for reasons orbitting closely around this issue.
@prologic @antonio I'm pretty sure I've seen one social network having their app deleted from both app stores for reasons orbitting closely around this issue.
@prologic if you want an annoyingly detailed point of view on this aka another boring wall of text, I can offer one later this week.
@prologic if you want an annoyingly detailed point of view on this aka another boring wall of text, I can offer one later this week.
@lukem That would be nice yes š
@lukem That would be nice yes š
@lukem That would be nice yes š
Seems I was wrong, micro.Blog does in fact have some limited tooling that lets you a) Mute a person and b) Report them š· 
(_at least in the Web App, I haven't found the same features in the iOS App yet..._)
Seems I was wrong, micro.Blog does in fact have some limited tooling that lets you a) Mute a person and b) Report them š· (_at least in the Web App, I haven't found the same features in the iOS App yet..._)
Seems I was wrong, micro.Blog does in fact have some limited tooling that lets you a) Mute a person and b) Report them š· (_at least in the Web App, I haven't found the same features in the iOS App yet..._)
@prologic @antonio I can't remember. Some non-mainstream one, but bigger than ours. I'll get back to you if I recall the name.
@prologic @antonio I can't remember. Some non-mainstream one, but bigger than ours. I'll get back to you if I recall the name.
@felixp7 so if you feel rather strongly about having the need to have moderation tools, how do you think these should work? Are you happy if the pod owner is allowed to delete user accounts and feeds, delete individual posts? Or should the tools be more community based where one or more users can flag individual posts? The problem I have with all of this is how far do you take it and where do you draw the linesā¦
@felixp7 so if you feel rather strongly about having the need to have moderation tools, how do you think these should work? Are you happy if the pod owner is allowed to delete user accounts and feeds, delete individual posts? Or should the tools be more community based where one or more users can flag individual posts? The problem I have with all of this is how far do you take it and where do you draw the linesā¦
@felixp7 so if you feel rather strongly about having the need to have moderation tools, how do you think these should work? Are you happy if the pod owner is allowed to delete user accounts and feeds, delete individual posts? Or should the tools be more community based where one or more users can flag individual posts? The problem I have with all of this is how far do you take it and where do you draw the linesā¦
@felixp7 Yeah so that was going to be my next point. We have to be very careful about what we as individuals consider harmful vs. questionable (_as some would like to put it_) content. I _think_ letting users flag posts is "okay", and allowing users to "mute"/"block" users is "okay" on the same Pod. micro.Blog for example (_only on the Web App_) has two functions a) Mute User and b) Report User...
@felixp7 Yeah so that was going to be my next point. We have to be very careful about what we as individuals consider harmful vs. questionable (_as some would like to put it_) content. I _think_ letting users flag posts is "okay", and allowing users to "mute"/"block" users is "okay" on the same Pod. micro.Blog for example (_only on the Web App_) has two functions a) Mute User and b) Report User...
@felixp7 Yeah so that was going to be my next point. We have to be very careful about what we as individuals consider harmful vs. questionable (_as some would like to put it_) content. I _think_ letting users flag posts is "okay", and allowing users to "mute"/"block" users is "okay" on the same Pod. micro.Blog for example (_only on the Web App_) has two functions a) Mute User and b) Report User...
Part of me tends to believe (_having done all this years ago back in the good 'ol days of IRC where I've been a Network Admin many times_) that abusive individuals that spout violence, hatred, racisms, bullying, etc tend to only ever behave this way period and so it becomes less important to moderate/flag individual content per se but rather a user/account. What do you think? This is the route micro.Blog took I _believe_...
Part of me tends to believe (_having done all this years ago back in the good 'ol days of IRC where I've been a Network Admin many times_) that abusive individuals that spout violence, hatred, racisms, bullying, etc tend to only ever behave this way period and so it becomes less important to moderate/flag individual content per se but rather a user/account. What do you think? This is the route micro.Blog took I _believe_...
Part of me tends to believe (_having done all this years ago back in the good 'ol days of IRC where I've been a Network Admin many times_) that abusive individuals that spout violence, hatred, racisms, bullying, etc tend to only ever behave this way period and so it becomes less important to moderate/flag individual content per se but rather a user/account. What do you think? This is the route micro.Blog took I _believe_...
I also worry that if we allow users to "flag" Twts, who gets to ultimately make the decision to either a) Nuke the Twt and/or b) Block/Delete the offending/abusive user/account ? The Pod Owner? A collective of persons on a Pod?
I also worry that if we allow users to "flag" Twts, who gets to ultimately make the decision to either a) Nuke the Twt and/or b) Block/Delete the offending/abusive user/account ? The Pod Owner? A collective of persons on a Pod?
I also worry that if we allow users to "flag" Twts, who gets to ultimately make the decision to either a) Nuke the Twt and/or b) Block/Delete the offending/abusive user/account ? The Pod Owner? A collective of persons on a Pod?
@felixp7 Also you raise a really good point about abusers following their victims. I'm not sure we can even really block them in the first place since we don't require any type of standardised "identity" as such that _might_ be tired with things like an Email Address, Google or some other social media-type identity. Sure we can enforce things at a Pod level and maybe that's enough? You're right that we limit quite a lot of potentially "bad" things already by being decentralised, not having so-called "re-tweets" and by being non-realtime.
@felixp7 Also you raise a really good point about abusers following their victims. I'm not sure we can even really block them in the first place since we don't require any type of standardised "identity" as such that _might_ be tired with things like an Email Address, Google or some other social media-type identity. Sure we can enforce things at a Pod level and maybe that's enough? You're right that we limit quite a lot of potentially "bad" things already by being decentralised, not having so-called "re-tweets" and by being non-realtime.
@felixp7 Also you raise a really good point about abusers following their victims. I'm not sure we can even really block them in the first place since we don't require any type of standardised "identity" as such that _might_ be tired with things like an Email Address, Google or some other social media-type identity. Sure we can enforce things at a Pod level and maybe that's enough? You're right that we limit quite a lot of potentially "bad" things already by being decentralised, not having so-called "re-tweets" and by being non-realtime.
@felixp7 I want to be really clear on something. WHen you say things like
> That we even need to have this conversation worries me.
For example, I'm actually offended myself š So let's be clear here, I'm not arguing about whether we should or should not have tools for Pod Owners to help combat abusers or spam. What I'm trying to convey in this conversation is how we go about it without crossing lines which are typically considered "grey areas". Its more of the design choices that I want to discuss here and the implications of those...
@felixp7 I want to be really clear on something. WHen you say things like\n\n> That we even need to have this conversation worries me.\n\nFor example, I'm actually offended myself š So let's be clear here, I'm not arguing about whether we should or should not have tools for Pod Owners to help combat abusers or spam. What I'm trying to convey in this conversation is how we go about it without crossing lines which are typically considered "grey areas". Its more of the design choices that I want to discuss here and the implications of those...
@felixp7 I want to be really clear on something. WHen you say things like
> That we even need to have this conversation worries me.
For example, I'm actually offended myself š So let's be clear here, I'm not arguing about whether we should or should not have tools for Pod Owners to help combat abusers or spam. What I'm trying to convey in this conversation is how we go about it without crossing lines which are typically considered "grey areas". Its more of the design choices that I want to discuss here and the implications of those...
@felixp7 I want to be really clear on something. WHen you say things like\n\n> That we even need to have this conversation worries me.\n\nFor example, I'm actually offended myself š So let's be clear here, I'm not arguing about whether we should or should not have tools for Pod Owners to help combat abusers or spam. What I'm trying to convey in this conversation is how we go about it without crossing lines which are typically considered "grey areas". Its more of the design choices that I want to discuss here and the implications of those...
But @felixp7 you didn't answer my questions earlier though...\n\n> how do you think these should work? Are you happy if the pod owner is allowed to delete user accounts and feeds, delete individual posts? Or should the tools be more community based where one or more users can flag individual posts?\n\nIn fairness you partially answered to some of these questions ai I _think_ you'd rather see it more community based with "flagging" that brings abusive users to a Pod Owner's attention right? As a user of this pod are you happy with me making decisions?
But @felixp7 you didn't answer my questions earlier though...
> how do you think these should work? Are you happy if the pod owner is allowed to delete user accounts and feeds, delete individual posts? Or should the tools be more community based where one or more users can flag individual posts?
In fairness you partially answered to some of these questions ai I _think_ you'd rather see it more community based with "flagging" that brings abusive users to a Pod Owner's attention right? As a user of this pod are you happy with me making decisions?
But @felixp7 you didn't answer my questions earlier though...\n\n> how do you think these should work? Are you happy if the pod owner is allowed to delete user accounts and feeds, delete individual posts? Or should the tools be more community based where one or more users can flag individual posts?\n\nIn fairness you partially answered to some of these questions ai I _think_ you'd rather see it more community based with "flagging" that brings abusive users to a Pod Owner's attention right? As a user of this pod are you happy with me making decisions?
But @felixp7 you didn't answer my questions earlier though...
> how do you think these should work? Are you happy if the pod owner is allowed to delete user accounts and feeds, delete individual posts? Or should the tools be more community based where one or more users can flag individual posts?
In fairness you partially answered to some of these questions ai I _think_ you'd rather see it more community based with "flagging" that brings abusive users to a Pod Owner's attention right? As a user of this pod are you happy with me making decisions?
@felixp7 actually thatās a very good point and you somehow implicitly implied some missing features that we do need to build, such as pod owner customized privacy policies and other such material that can be customized...
@felixp7 actually thatās a very good point and you somehow implicitly implied some missing features that we do need to build, such as pod owner customized privacy policies and other such material that can be customized...
@felixp7 actually thatās a very good point and you somehow implicitly implied some missing features that we do need to build, such as pod owner customized privacy policies and other such material that can be customized...
@felixp7 thanks for your support! I think in all honesty you make some very good points and Iād like to summarize them at some point in the actual feature sets that we build out over the next coming weeksā¦
@felixp7 thanks for your support! I think in all honesty you make some very good points and Iād like to summarize them at some point in the actual feature sets that we build out over the next coming weeksā¦
@felixp7 thanks for your support! I think in all honesty you make some very good points and Iād like to summarize them at some point in the actual feature sets that we build out over the next coming weeksā¦