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I made some concepts/mockups rethinking the navigation for yarn.social. And trying out a permanent sidebar, but not sure if it is needed... Details in a PDF at github
Feedback here or at github is more than welcome :)
@lyse Re the permanent sidebar: no it would not be fixed when scrolling. I just tried out two different way of cleaning up the levels of navigation, hiding (1-2 clicks) some that in my experiences would not be needed that often and bumping some up (direct access).
@darch and about what we are aiming for here read https://herman.bearblog.dev/mvp-vs-slc/ on the topic Minimum Viable Product or Simple, Loveable, and Complete.\nThis could be a prompt to look at if halfworking features (i.e. private messages) should be hidden away until they are ready and focus on making what is special about yarn.social both loveable and complete:)
@darch (#jatw6pq) and about what we are aiming for here, you can give this a read https://herman.bearblog.dev/mvp-vs-slc/ on the topic Minimum Viable Product or Simple, Loveable, and Complete.\nThis could be a prompt to look at if halfworking features (i.e. private messages) should be hidden away until they are ready and focus on making what is special about yarn.social both loveable and complete:)
@darch I'm usually very bad at getting the right feeling of a webpage/-site if I only can see a static rendering of it. But I reckon I prefer the layout without the sidebar. What do you mean by permanent sidebar? A sidebar, that will always be visible regardless of the scroll position? I usually heavily dislike sites, that do this sort of thing, especially if there's "useless" fixed stuff on the top or bottom, which waste so much content real estate, so I strongly advise against a position: fixed navigation. :-)
@darch I think you edited your last message instead of replying to me with a new one. ;-) Ah, cool! That's actually a very valid point, I never thought of the layering.
@darch Great job, and I like the look of the sidebar. It makes the whole thing look delightfully retro, and doesn't cost that much space on the side. I agree that it shouldn't be fixed while scrolling, though.
@darch Great job, and I like the look of the sidebar. It makes the whole thing look delightfully retro, and doesn't cost that much space on the side. I agree that it shouldn't be fixed while scrolling, though.
@lyse Doh! Kinda exposing an issue that I was trying to address the the now gone post... Anyhow I recommend people to give this a read https://herman.bearblog.dev/mvp-vs-slc/ on Minimum Viable Product vs Simple, Loveable, and Complete. I think we should focus on fixing stuff that would turn regular users off and putting features that are only half-working on the backburner/someday-maybe-list, ie. private messages.
@lyse Doh! Kinda exposing an issue that I was trying to address the the now gone post... Anyhow I recommend people to give this a read https://herman.bearblog.dev/mvp-vs-slc/ on Minimum Viable Product vs Loveable, and Complete. I think we should focus on fixing stuff that would turn regular users off and putting features that are only half-working on the backburner/someday-maybe-list, ie. private messages.
@mckinley Thanks for you feedback. I'm all for delightfully retro :) That is what you get from making webdesign in LibreOffice... And we might have a (side)barfight coming up ;)
@darch (You often editing your twts exposes a flaw in my client: It doesn’t prune twts which no longer exist. So I’m now seeing lots of duplicates from you. 🤣 I should probably fix that, but it might be quite the impact on performance …)
@darch (You often editing your twts exposes a flaw in my client: It doesn’t prune twts which no longer exist. So I’m now seeing lots of duplicates from you. 🤣 I should probably fix that, but it might be quite the impact on performance …)
@darch (You often editing your twts exposes a flaw in my client: It doesn’t prune twts which no longer exist. So I’m now seeing lots of duplicates from you. 🤣 I should probably fix that, but it might be quite the impact on performance …)
@darch If I have some time today, I can recreate your mock-ups in HTML and CSS. It always helps to scroll through it in the browser, see what it would really look like.
@darch If I have some time today, I can recreate your mock-ups in HTML and CSS. It always helps to scroll through it in the browser, see what it would really look like.
@mckinley You are welcome to do that. It would be fun to see how you interpret my "drawings" - but I'm also capable of doing that myself:)
@darch The link you posted in the GitHub issue doesn’t work for me 😥
@darch The link you posted in the GitHub issue doesn’t work for me 😥
@prologic Works fine for me and others it seem. I just uploaded it to github. try another browser or pdf reader
@darch I'm sorry, I hope you didn't take offense to my reply. It wasn't a great choice of words. I didn't mean to imply anything, I just wanted to offer some help.
@darch I'm sorry, I hope you didn't take offense to my reply. It wasn't a great choice of words. I didn't mean to imply anything, I just wanted to offer some help.
@darch @movq Actually what is the issue here exactly with editing your last Twt?
@darch @movq Actually what is the issue here exactly with editing your last Twt?
@movq @prologic issue is that I started to edit a text, but the open a new tab because I change my mind and wanted to make a new twt. but the some cookiemoster ate my old twt and replaced it with the new one
@movq @darch Ahh we can probably remove that bit of JS now that we have proper draft blog posts
@movq @darch Ahh we can probably remove that bit of JS now that we have proper draft blog posts
@mckinley @prologic you are very welcome to make the mockups into code. I was also not sure how I should have frased my reply to you. I guess my point was no need for two people doing the same thing, by then again you might be coming up with something amazing 😃
(this conversation could really need the feature of branches/forks;)
@darch well it can be done by hand but I agree we need some user interface convenience to do that 🤣
@darch well it can be done by hand but I agree we need some user interface convenience to do that 🤣
@darch Love it! Particularly like Page 2. :-)
Also would you be up for another jitsi talk on Saturday evening? Or is there a better time of the day for @prologic where us Europeans will also be awake?
@darch @prologic I should be around on Saturday evening UTC. :-) Actually, Søren, I'll create an account for you today, so you can host in the future too. User name will be your handle in this conversation, and the password will be the country you connect from, capitalised, with 3 & 4 for vowels. :-D
@darch Sounds okay I. theory 😁
@darch Sounds okay I. theory 😁
@darch i’m pretty flexible honestly as long as it’s on the weekend 👌
@darch i’m pretty flexible honestly as long as it’s on the weekend 👌
Real HTML and CSS coming along slowly
EDIT: twtxt.net seems to mess with the compression...
Real HTML and CSS coming along slowly\n\nEDIT: twtxt.net seems to mess with the compression...
@mckinley Thanks:) did you have a go a turning the mockups into code as well, or any other ideas for the design?
@darch I couldn't get around to it, I'm sorry.
@darch I couldn't get around to it, I'm sorry.
@prologic and others are we still have a talk on @jlj 's jitsi at 20 UTC tonight?
I'm game. :-) I created that account btw, @darch. What would be a good agenda? Want to make sure I'm prepped this time. :-)
@jlj cool. I tied to login but no luck. For the agenda i made a new doc in hackmd about what features we want to focus on. and also any input on the UI design is much appreciated ☺️
@darch Makes sense. :-) And I just confirmed once more that your account works, so now I'm worried that I messed up where you're from. >.< Oh well, I can share the credentials verbally this evening, regardless. :-D
@jlj do you mind sharing the link again?
@darch Might be slightly late. Daughter is still wide awake. _sigh_ Room is hosted now, though.
@darch Damnit I totally missed this 😥 Sorry guys I didn’t realize we were doing this again this weekend 🤦♂️
@darch Damnit I totally missed this 😥 Sorry guys I didn’t realize we were doing this again this weekend 🤦♂️
@prologic no worries:) I first confirmed it today, when it was already night downunder. We did put in some notes in the hackmd. And we agreed to try to make a new doodle for next week and maybe this time settle on a time that is better for you.