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Adobe is killing Pantone colours from all of their products, unless you subscribe to Pantone for 21$ a month. Cory Doctorow has a good point:
> Owning colors is a terrible idea and technically, it's not possible to do so. Neither UPS Brown nor John Deere Green are "owned" in any meaningful sense, but the companies certainly want you to believe that they are. Inspired by them and Pantone, people with IP brain-worms keep trying to turn colors into property:
https://pluralistic.net/2022/10/28/fade-to-black/#trust-the-process
@carsten I saw this in my feed somewhere else today too and kind of dismissed it as "uggh" π
But seriously?! π³ $21/month for a fucking colour?! π€¦ββοΈ
@carsten I saw this in my feed somewhere else today too and kind of dismissed it as "uggh" π
But seriously?! π³ $21/month for a fucking colour?! π€¦ββοΈ
@carsten I like the ideas of Doctorow but I don't completely agree on this one.
In this case is like if you register a perfume.
Could a Pantone Rose Perfume be created? I guess so, b/c it's not only a name (which is a brand), but the recipe to reach to that smell. It's not so fair under the current IP legislation that someone else can use your work and sell the same perfume as theirs. Would it be plagiarism IMO.
Again, it's polemic, but in this specific case I think people don't understand what's behind licensing a Pantone.
I leave a discussion on that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33370265
Aaand that's because Pantone is more about the physical ink to reach that color than the RGB/Hex value and name for it.
Is unfair that Photoshop charges you for something that previously was free? I don't know.
Before PS had a single payment and now it's a subscription. I think there comes the main rant.
@eaplmx I _think_ that's my main gripe too:
> Is unfair that Photoshop charges you for something that previously was free? I donβt know.
> Before PS had a single payment and now itβs a subscription. I think there comes the main rant.
All these companies trying to push the "subscription" mode for everything. First there was Toyota that tried to pull that stunt with the remote key fob that remote started the car and tried to con customers into paying a subscription for something that car can actually do it its own π€¦ββοΈ Then Mercedes Bens has followed up with a subscription service just to have heated seats, again, something your fucking car can do that you paid 10s of thousands of dollars for.
I mean it's just nuts π€¦ββοΈ
@eaplmx I _think_ that's my main gripe too:
> Is unfair that Photoshop charges you for something that previously was free? I donβt know.
> Before PS had a single payment and now itβs a subscription. I think there comes the main rant.
All these companies trying to push the "subscription" mode for everything. First there was Toyota that tried to pull that stunt with the remote key fob that remote started the car and tried to con customers into paying a subscription for something that car can actually do it its own π€¦ββοΈ Then Mercedes Bens has followed up with a subscription service just to have heated seats, again, something your fucking car can do that you paid 10s of thousands of dollars for.
I mean it's just nuts π€¦ββοΈ
@prologic yeah, subscriptions are insane. I understand why do companies need them.
But the way it's worded "We charge you periodically for your convenience" is irritating.
@eaplmx I totally get and accept if its a valid service that actually provides some meaningful value in return. But companies like Toyota and Mercedes (just to cite two recent examples) charging you a subscription free for an already expensive product that does the thing X that you're being forced to pay a subscription to company Y for is just bullshit.
@eaplmx I totally get and accept if its a valid service that actually provides some meaningful value in return. But companies like Toyota and Mercedes (just to cite two recent examples) charging you a subscription free for an already expensive product that does the thing X that you're being forced to pay a subscription to company Y for is just bullshit.
@prologic It seems so. Pantone is becoming a subscription-based company. If you want to match a colour to a Pantone name, you have to license it. The names only exists because of talk-ability between customers, designers, and printing companies. My opinion.
