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movq
www.uninformativ.de
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Playing with map projections and satellite tracking again, and realizing my screen is too small to actually show this off: https://www.uninformativ.de/desktop/2021-03-06--katriawm-maps.png
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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Playing with map projections and satellite tracking again, and realizing my screen is too small to actually show this off: https://www.uninformativ.de/desktop/2021-03-06--katriawm-maps.png
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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Playing with map projections and satellite tracking again, and realizing my screen is too small to actually show this off: https://www.uninformativ.de/desktop/2021-03-06--katriawm-maps.png
lyse
lyse.isobeef.org
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@movq This looks really terrific! What's your final thing you want to build with this?
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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@lyse It’s mostly a toy, really. I wrote asciiworld a while back, but you can’t move or zoom the map, that’s a bit “meh”. I hope I can rework it to allow for that kind of fancy stuff. 😊 (One of the main things about this is bouncing ideas back and forth with a coworker, who does something related.)
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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@lyse It’s mostly a toy, really. I wrote asciiworld a while back, but you can’t move or zoom the map, that’s a bit “meh”. I hope I can rework it to allow for that kind of fancy stuff. 😊 (One of the main things about this is bouncing ideas back and forth with a coworker, who does something related.)
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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@lyse It’s mostly a toy, really. I wrote asciiworld a while back, but you can’t move or zoom the map, that’s a bit “meh”. I hope I can rework it to allow for that kind of fancy stuff. 😊 (One of the main things about this is bouncing ideas back and forth with a coworker, who does something related.)
lyse
lyse.isobeef.org
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@movq Nice! Having fun and tinkering around is always pleasant. And you learn a ton.
adi
twtxt.net
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@lyse @movq\n\n> I hope I can rework it to allow for that kind of fancy stuff.\n\nAnd what's preventing you? 😋
adi
f.adi.onl
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@lyse @movq\n\n> I hope I can rework it to allow for that kind of fancy stuff.\n\nAnd what's preventing you? 😋
adi
twtxt.net
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@lyse @movq

> I hope I can rework it to allow for that kind of fancy stuff.

And what's preventing you? 😋
adi
f.adi.onl
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@movq @adi @lyse Succesfully compiled asciiworld on OpenBSD. Playing around. 😛
adi
twtxt.net
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@movq @adi @lyse Succesfully compiled asciiworld on OpenBSD. Playing around. 😛
adi
f.adi.onl
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@adi @movq @lyse \n\n
\ngeoip_city_database = "/usr/share/GeoIP/GeoIPCity.dat"\ngeoip_city_database_v6 = "/usr/share/GeoIP/GeoIPCityv6.dat"\n
\n\nAren't these "old", "deprecated" GeoIP databases? Isn't the new format in .mmdb? I don't believe I have those databases on OpenBSD.
adi
twtxt.net
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@adi @movq @lyse \n\n
\ngeoip_city_database = "/usr/share/GeoIP/GeoIPCity.dat"\ngeoip_city_database_v6 = "/usr/share/GeoIP/GeoIPCityv6.dat"\n
\n\nAren't these "old", "deprecated" GeoIP databases? Isn't the new format in .mmdb? I don't believe I have those databases on OpenBSD.
adi
twtxt.net
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@adi @movq @lyse 


geoip_city_database = "/usr/share/GeoIP/GeoIPCity.dat"
geoip_city_database_v6 = "/usr/share/GeoIP/GeoIPCityv6.dat"


Aren't these "old", "deprecated" GeoIP databases? Isn't the new format in .mmdb? I don't believe I have those databases on OpenBSD.
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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@adi Huh, you appear to be correct. I’ll look into it, thanks! > >
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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@adi Huh, you appear to be correct. I’ll look into it, thanks! > >
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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@adi Huh, you appear to be correct. I’ll look into it, thanks! > >
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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@adi I get a feeling that there are no free IP databases anymore? At least not from MaxMind. Download requires you to have an account (https://dev.maxmind.com/geoip/geoipupdate/). Arch Linux doesn’t provide packages with the GeoIP2 stuff, either. 🤔 If I can’t find free DBs, then I’ll remove that feature from asciiworld … > >
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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@adi I get a feeling that there are no free IP databases anymore? At least not from MaxMind. Download requires you to have an account (https://dev.maxmind.com/geoip/geoipupdate/). Arch Linux doesn’t provide packages with the GeoIP2 stuff, either. 🤔 If I can’t find free DBs, then I’ll remove that feature from asciiworld … > >
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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@adi I get a feeling that there are no free IP databases anymore? At least not from MaxMind. Download requires you to have an account (https://dev.maxmind.com/geoip/geoipupdate/). Arch Linux doesn’t provide packages with the GeoIP2 stuff, either. 🤔 If I can’t find free DBs, then I’ll remove that feature from asciiworld … > >
adi
f.adi.onl
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@movq \n\nFrom https://dev.maxmind.com/geoip/geoip2/geolite2/\n\n> To receive access to download the GeoLite2 databases or query the GeoLite2 web services at no charge, sign up for a GeoLite2 account.\n\nGeo*lite* is the free version now.
adi
twtxt.net
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@movq

From https://dev.maxmind.com/geoip/geoip2/geolite2/

> To receive access to download the GeoLite2 databases or query the GeoLite2 web services at no charge, sign up for a GeoLite2 account.

Geo*lite* is the free version now.
adi
twtxt.net
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@movq \n\nFrom https://dev.maxmind.com/geoip/geoip2/geolite2/\n\n> To receive access to download the GeoLite2 databases or query the GeoLite2 web services at no charge, sign up for a GeoLite2 account.\n\nGeo*lite* is the free version now.
adi
f.adi.onl
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@adi @movq I'm looking at what and how OpenBSD packages.
adi
twtxt.net
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@adi @movq I'm looking at what and how OpenBSD packages.
adi
f.adi.onl
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@adi @movq This is the package that has the databases but I can't figure out how it gets the files https://github.com/openbsd/ports/tree/22f59096e42f4bf9e6cd51073119c7653eaf83b9/net/libmaxminddb.
adi
twtxt.net
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@adi @movq This is the package that has the databases but I can't figure out how it gets the files https://github.com/openbsd/ports/tree/22f59096e42f4bf9e6cd51073119c7653eaf83b9/net/libmaxminddb.
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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@adi Hmmm. It appears they download it from https://www.distfiles.pl/geolite2-data-20191224.tar.xz … Maybe someone downloaded it manually from the MaxMind site (and that person created an account to do so) and then mirrored it at distfiles.pl? 🤔 Looks a bit shady … MaxMind clearly *wants* you to create an account and I’d rather not look for ways to bypass that. 😒
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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@adi Hmmm. It appears they download it from https://www.distfiles.pl/geolite2-data-20191224.tar.xz … Maybe someone downloaded it manually from the MaxMind site (and that person created an account to do so) and then mirrored it at distfiles.pl? 🤔 Looks a bit shady … MaxMind clearly *wants* you to create an account and I’d rather not look for ways to bypass that. 😒
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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@adi Hmmm. It appears they download it from https://www.distfiles.pl/geolite2-data-20191224.tar.xz … Maybe someone downloaded it manually from the MaxMind site (and that person created an account to do so) and then mirrored it at distfiles.pl? 🤔 Looks a bit shady … MaxMind clearly *wants* you to create an account and I’d rather not look for ways to bypass that. 😒
adi
f.adi.onl
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@adi @movq \n\n
\n$ ls -1 /var/db/GeoIP/\nGeoLite2-City.mmdb\nGeoLite2-Country.mmdb\n
adi
twtxt.net
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@adi @movq 


$ ls -1 /var/db/GeoIP/
GeoLite2-City.mmdb
GeoLite2-Country.mmdb
adi
twtxt.net
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@adi @movq \n\n
\n$ ls -1 /var/db/GeoIP/\nGeoLite2-City.mmdb\nGeoLite2-Country.mmdb\n
adi
twtxt.net
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@adi @movq https://twitter.com/adi3v/status/1371023337774850056
adi
f.adi.onl
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@adi @movq https://twitter.com/adi3v/status/1371023337774850056
adi
twtxt.net
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@movq Shady legally speaking?
adi
f.adi.onl
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@movq Shady legally speaking?
adi
twtxt.net
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@adi @movq Lol, why not just create an account yourself and download the databases, I guess you have to read about the distribution policy.
adi
f.adi.onl
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@adi @movq Lol, why not just create an account yourself and download the databases, I guess you have to read about the distribution policy.
adi
f.adi.onl
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@adi @movq Yeah, problem is distribution, are you allowed or not to distribute the databases. Would be dumb if MaxMind would want everybody to create an account instead of just software makers/distributors to download the databases for distribution.
adi
twtxt.net
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@adi @movq Yeah, problem is distribution, are you allowed or not to distribute the databases. Would be dumb if MaxMind would want everybody to create an account instead of just software makers/distributors to download the databases for distribution.
adi
twtxt.net
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@adi @movq Yeah, problem is distribution, are you allowed or not to distribute the databases. Would be dumb if maxmind would want everybody to create an account or just software makers/distributers.
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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@adi Thanks for asking on Twitter, I’m curious about the answer. 😁 But whatever, their EULA is a bit “meh”. For example: “You shall cease use of and destroy any old versions of the Services within thirty (30) days following the release of the updated GeoLite2 Databases.” That thing might be “free as in free beer”, but it’s simply not “free as in free speech”. I didn’t care in the past as long as the distribution shipped it, but now that they’re stopped, I’m not really interested … 😐
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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@adi Thanks for asking on Twitter, I’m curious about the answer. 😁 But whatever, their EULA is a bit “meh”. For example: “You shall cease use of and destroy any old versions of the Services within thirty (30) days following the release of the updated GeoLite2 Databases.” That thing might be “free as in free beer”, but it’s simply not “free as in free speech”. I didn’t care in the past as long as the distribution shipped it, but now that they’re stopped, I’m not really interested … 😐
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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@adi Thanks for asking on Twitter, I’m curious about the answer. 😁 But whatever, their EULA is a bit “meh”. For example: “You shall cease use of and destroy any old versions of the Services within thirty (30) days following the release of the updated GeoLite2 Databases.” That thing might be “free as in free beer”, but it’s simply not “free as in free speech”. I didn’t care in the past as long as the distribution shipped it, but now that they’re stopped, I’m not really interested … 😐
adi
twtxt.net
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@movq

> “You shall cease use of and destroy any old versions of the Services within thirty (30) days following the release of the updated GeoLite2 Databases.”

I interpret this as "you have to keep your database updated", not as distribution restriction.
adi
twtxt.net
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@movq \n\n> “You shall cease use of and destroy any old versions of the Services within thirty (30) days following the release of the updated GeoLite2 Databases.”\n\nI interpret this as "you have to keep your database updated", not as distribution restriction.
adi
f.adi.onl
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@movq \n\n> “You shall cease use of and destroy any old versions of the Services within thirty (30) days following the release of the updated GeoLite2 Databases.”\n\nI interpret this as "you have to keep your database updated", not as distribution restriction.
adi
f.adi.onl
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@adi @movq I'm pretty sure it's "free as in beer", and not "free as in speech" because they require you to keep the database updated?
adi
twtxt.net
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@adi @movq I'm pretty sure it's "free as in beer", and not "free as in speech" because they require you to keep the database updated?
adi
f.adi.onl
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@adi @movq You could simply not distribute the db files with asciiworld and have it in your README that thy're required.
adi
twtxt.net
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@adi @movq You could simply not distributed the db files with asciiworld and have it in your README that thy're required.
adi
twtxt.net
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@adi @movq You could simply not distribute the db files with asciiworld and have it in your README that thy're required.
prologic
twtxt.net
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@movq @adi and what if I want to keep an old version for historical purposes or analysis? That statement is rather forceful and rather stupid in my opinion
prologic
twtxt.net
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@movq @adi and what if I want to keep an old version for historical purposes or analysis? That statement is rather forceful and rather stupid in my opinion
adi
twtxt.net
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@movq @prologic I'm not a lawyer.
adi
f.adi.onl
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@movq @prologic I'm not a lawyer.
adi
twtxt.net
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@adi @movq @prologic But I guess you can send them a message and ask.
adi
f.adi.onl
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@adi @movq @prologic But I guess you can send them a message and ask.
adi
twtxt.net
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@adi @movq @prologic But I guess you can send them a message an ask.
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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@prologic No idea, not a laywer, either. And it’s exactly details like this that make me go: “Nah. Not gonna use it. Not even if it’s free of charge.” (Especially if it’s just a toy.)
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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@prologic No idea, not a laywer, either. And it’s exactly details like this that make me go: “Nah. Not gonna use it. Not even if it’s free of charge.” (Especially if it’s just a toy.)
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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@prologic No idea, not a laywer, either. And it’s exactly details like this that make me go: “Nah. Not gonna use it. Not even if it’s free of charge.” (Especially if it’s just a toy.)
adi
twtxt.net
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@movq @prologic I personally would send them a message. 😋
adi
f.adi.onl
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@movq @prologic I personally would send them a message. 😋
adi
twtxt.net
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@adi @movq @prologic https://twitter.com/fcambus/status/1371392533780172803
adi
f.adi.onl
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@adi @movq @prologic https://twitter.com/fcambus/status/1371392533780172803
adi
twtxt.net
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@adi @movq @prologic Maybe you could use the https://db-ip.com/db/lite.php databases in asciiworld 😉.
adi
f.adi.onl
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@adi @movq @prologic Maybe you could use the https://db-ip.com/db/lite.php databases in asciiworld 😉.
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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@adi Ohhhhhhh, you’re awesome! I’ll look into db-ip.com! 🤗
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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@adi Ohhhhhhh, you’re awesome! I’ll look into db-ip.com! 🤗
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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@adi Ohhhhhhh, you’re awesome! I’ll look into db-ip.com! 🤗
adi
twtxt.net
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@adi @movq @prologic It's nice that it's also available in CVS format but it has less info https://db-ip.com/db/download/ip-to-country-lite
adi
f.adi.onl
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@adi @movq @prologic It's nice that it's also available in CVS format but it has less info https://db-ip.com/db/download/ip-to-country-lite
adi
twtxt.net
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@adi @movq @prologic Yeah, I agree I'm awesome 😋, fcambus also is. I also agree it's good to be aware of other GeoIP databases than the MaxMind ones, first time I heard about https://db-ip.com/.
adi
f.adi.onl
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@adi @movq @prologic Yeah, I agree I'm awesome 😋, fcambus also is. I also agree it's good to be aware of other GeoIP databases than the MaxMind ones, first time I heard about https://db-ip.com/.
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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Next asciiworld release will use mmdb/GeoIP2 and will advise to fetch the databases from db-ip.com 🎉
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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Next asciiworld release will use mmdb/GeoIP2 and will advise to fetch the databases from db-ip.com 🎉
movq
www.uninformativ.de
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Next asciiworld release will use mmdb/GeoIP2 and will advise to fetch the databases from db-ip.com 🎉