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New York Times:
Ukrainian strike kills scores of Russian troops
In a deadly attack on New Year’s Day, Ukrainians used American-made long-range HIMARS rockets to kill dozens — and perhaps hundreds — of Moscow’s troops in the occupied city of Makiivka, in eastern Ukraine. The strike prompted outraged Russian war hawks to accuse their military of lethal incompetence.
The attack killed 63 troops in a building housing them, according to the Russian Defense Ministry. A former Russian paramilitary commander in Ukraine, Igor Girkin, wrote that “many hundreds” were dead and wounded. Ukrainian military officials said it appeared that “about 400” Russian troops had been killed, though they did not explicitly take responsibility for the attack. 1/2
None of the claims could be independently verified, but even the lowest number would represent one of the worst Russian losses in a single episode in the war, and an embarrassment for Vladimir Putin, the Russian leader. Pro-war Russian bloggers and some government officials said the debacle was caused by the military’s own mistakes.
Big picture: More than 10 months after an invasion that many expected would produce a quick Russian victory, each side has suffered more than 100,000 killed and wounded, by Western estimates, and the war has become one of attrition, with no evidence of an end in sight.
@carsten My god 🤦♂️ How does this stack rank up against the greatest wars of all human history? 🤔 Are we up there? 😢
@carsten My god 🤦♂️ How does this stack rank up against the greatest wars of all human history? 🤔 Are we up there? 😢
@carsten My god 🤦♂️ How does this stack rank up against the greatest wars of all human history? 🤔 Are we up there? 😢
@carsten My god 🤦♂️ How does this stack rank up against the greatest wars of all human history? 🤔 Are we up there? 😢
@prologic I don't know. Telegram groups are going crazy. Pro RUS accuses own military of being stupid to use mobile phones, Pro UKR celebrates fiercely because of killings of many "orks". From here, the observer from afar, it is hard to observe. Also all the RUS propaganda and what they say in the Russian state media. Crazy people in Russia. A country that has been indoctrinated for so long. It's so sad to see. However, there are crazy people everywhere. Also in Ukraine and also in Germany. Just look at the shit that was caused on New Year's Eve: Luring rescue workers into ambushes in order to bombard them with fireworks.
@prologic The Battle of the Somme, a single battle in WWI, claimed over 1 million casualties. WWII had 85 million deaths according to Wikipedia. Humans are brutal creatures. The Russia-Ukraine war is listed on Wikipedia as having started in 2014, which seems fair, and it's ranked pretty low on the list by death toll but it does rank.
@abucci It is still a stupid war started by a stupid man with wrong thoughts.
@carsten yes you are right about that. Definitely didn't mean to downplay it in any way.
Indeed this war is completely pointless and the casualties no matter the number senseless 😢
Indeed this war is completely pointless and the casualties no matter the number senseless 😢
Indeed this war is completely pointless and the casualties no matter the number senseless 😢
Indeed this war is completely pointless and the casualties no matter the number senseless 😢