# I am the Watcher. I am your guide through this vast new twtiverse.
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# Usage:
# https://watcher.sour.is/api/plain/users View list of users and latest twt date.
# https://watcher.sour.is/api/plain/twt View all twts.
# https://watcher.sour.is/api/plain/mentions?uri=:uri View all mentions for uri.
# https://watcher.sour.is/api/plain/conv/:hash View all twts for a conversation subject.
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# Options:
# uri Filter to show a specific users twts.
# offset Start index for quey.
# limit Count of items to return (going back in time).
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# twt range = 1 16
# self = https://watcher.sour.is/conv/rxnowqq
@prologic yes, they both suck. There are no good clients. None.
@fastidious Why do these two client suskc? Can you save me time/effort here? 😂
@fastidious Why do these two client suskc? Can you save me time/effort here? 😂
@prologic their interface is ugly and clunky, they crash, and often do not work at all. But don't take my word for it, install them and you will see what I am talking about.
@fastidious I _might_ not even bother to be honest... If you've seen my other Yarns/rants I can't even find a decent XMPP server that ticks my checklist. I mean I'm not asking for much really 🤦♂️ It's either a) too hard to stand up (_so much software is operationally too hard and I don't the energy anymore to by a "sysadmin"_) or b) requires some stupid insane database even for a small setup or c) just doesn't fucking work as advertised 🤬
@fastidious I _might_ not even bother to be honest... If you've seen my other Yarns/rants I can't even find a decent XMPP server that ticks my checklist. I mean I'm not asking for much really 🤦♂️ It's either a) too hard to stand up (_so much software is operationally too hard and I don't the energy anymore to by a "sysadmin"_) or b) requires some stupid insane database even for a small setup or c) just doesn't fucking work as advertised 🤬
@prologic I hear you. Supposedly Snikket is trying to make it easy for anyone to run a server (their client sucks). On their docker approach I think they use Prosody, but not sure.
@prologic You won't find a good XMPP client for iOS, even on Android it's only blabber.im that I find usable enough for what I need from a phone client.
Something that was not yet mentioned here is https://inverse.chat, which is a web based client that can run on almost anything and it's good enough for what it is.
It can even be used on a phone, but it is by no means a pleasant experience, but than again, what even is pleasant on the iOS. 😏
@thecanine can you login on that web based client, send browser to background, and keep connections? Can you receive notifications when the browser is on background? If the answer is no, then it is worthless. On top of that, if it isn't a pleasant experience on mobile, what's the point? Are we masochists, or something?
Not going to feed the troll on the iOS comment. 😒
@prologic As for the server, we run ejabberd. The Erlang config was a bit strange back in the days, but YAML is now also supported if I'm not mistaken. But yeah, YAML for configs is a pain on its own, that's for sure.
@fastidious I don't know for sure, but according to the text on their GitHub, it should be able to run, when the browser is in the background and give some kind of notifications (sound if I remember right). I can't confirm any of it, as I've only ever used it for quick checkups and use blabber.im for like 99% of my time on XMPP. So I wouldn't recommend Inverse as your main client, especially not on mobile.
@fastidious You can call me a troll all you like, but it doesn't invalidate my point, that Androids sideloading (that idiots like Tim Cook love to go against) and more developer friendly environment, led to there being good clients for XMPP and Fediverse, as someone would come out and make a solid base, that others would fork and expand upon, eventually turning it into something that fits the needs of the community. On iOS everyone always starts over, making their shitty little things and than you wonder why none of it feels finished. 😏
@thecanine graduated as a true troll, mate. Plunk.
@fastidious Who would I even be trolling? I'm not trying to make you angry, it's just some friendly banter and you can't deny that there is some truth to it, especially when it comes to smaller projects that have no way to monetize (especially if the developers themselves don't have Apple HW).
I'm not claiming Android is perfect either and I hate Google for many reasons, but we are at a point when you're more or less forced to choose the better trash - in many ways.