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Oof. About 13 years ago, I was introduced to the suckless project. One of its major “selling points” was that “software can be *done*”. You usually see a huge spike of commits in the beginning and then it falls off rapidly. It appears this basic idea is not very popular. We have to re-iterate it over and over: https://drewdevault.com/2021/01/04/A-culture-of-stability-and-reliability.html
Oof. About 13 years ago, I was introduced to the suckless project. One of its major “selling points” was that “software can be *done*”. You usually see a huge spike of commits in the beginning and then it falls off rapidly. It appears this basic idea is not very popular. We have to re-iterate it over and over: https://drewdevault.com/2021/01/04/A-culture-of-stability-and-reliability.html
Oof. About 13 years ago, I was introduced to the suckless project. One of its major “selling points” was that “software can be *done*”. You usually see a huge spike of commits in the beginning and then it falls off rapidly. It appears this basic idea is not very popular. We have to re-iterate it over and over: https://drewdevault.com/2021/01/04/A-culture-of-stability-and-reliability.html
@vain i’m not quite following your thinking here… What exactly are you saying about suckless the project which itself consists of many pieces of software? Soms of which I borrowed for https://github.com/prologic/ulinux
@vain i’m not quite following your thinking here… What exactly are you saying about suckless the project which itself consists of many pieces of software? Soms of which I borrowed for https://github.com/prologic/ulinux
@vain i’m not quite following your thinking here… What exactly are you saying about suckless the project which itself consists of many pieces of software? Soms of which I borrowed for https://github.com/prologic/ulinux
@prologic Ah, no, I mean the individual programs. dwm is a good example. There was a lot of activity in the early years, but it has slowed down considerably in the last decade or so. That’s not because dwm is dead, but because it’s pretty much “done”. They had a clear goal, they reached it, done. I’d like to see this approach/philosophy more often.
@prologic Ah, no, I mean the individual programs. dwm is a good example. There was a lot of activity in the early years, but it has slowed down considerably in the last decade or so. That’s not because dwm is dead, but because it’s pretty much “done”. They had a clear goal, they reached it, done. I’d like to see this approach/philosophy more often.
@prologic Ah, no, I mean the individual programs. dwm is a good example. There was a lot of activity in the early years, but it has slowed down considerably in the last decade or so. That’s not because dwm is dead, but because it’s pretty much “done”. They had a clear goal, they reached it, done. I’d like to see this approach/philosophy more often.
@prologic Ah, no, I mean the individual programs. dwm is a good example. There was a lot of activity in the early years, but it has slowed down considerably in the last decade or so. That’s not because dwm is dead, but because it’s pretty much “done”. They had a clear goal, they reached it, done. I’d like to see this approach/philosophy more often.
@vain I _wonder_ what this looks like for Twtxt?
@vain I _wonder_ what this looks like for Twtxt?
@vain I _wonder_ what this looks like for Twtxt?
@vain @prologic I also read the same article. Very much agreed. It's weird that "done" when it comes to software is the exception and not the rule.
@vain @prologic I also read the same article. Very much agreed. It's weird that "done" when it comes to software is the exception and not the rule.
@vain @prologic I also read the same article. Very much agreed. It's weird that "done" when it comes to software is the exception and not the rule.
@prologic @vain Just keep the scope focused and refrain from adding features.
@prologic @vain Just keep the scope focused and refrain from adding features.
@prologic @vain Just keep the scope focused and refrain from adding features.
@vain @adi @prologic This is possible when developing for UNIX because of its philosophy, normally when you're not sure if something is in scope you would just create another program that interacts with the initial one, see dwm
and dmenu
for instance.
@vain @adi @prologic This is possible when developing for UNIX because of its philosophy, normally when you're not sure if something is in scope you would just create another program that interacts with the initial one, see dwm
and dmenu
for instance.
@vain @adi @prologic This is possible when developing for UNIX because of its philosophy, normally when you're not sure if something is in scope you would just create another program that interacts with the initial one, see dwm
and dmenu
for instance.
This is all true. They are however "trade offs". The main point here _I think_ is "managing change". We're not done with Twtxt by a long short (_but I still need help!_), we're close but far from "done".
This is all true. They are however "trade offs". The main point here _I think_ is "managing change". We're not done with Twtxt by a long short (_but I still need help!_), we're close but far from "done".
This is all true. They are however "trade offs". The main point here _I think_ is "managing change". We're not done with Twtxt by a long short (_but I still need help!_), we're close but far from "done".
@prologic @adi Hmm, I guess for twtxt.net it means something like “be a microblogging platform”, i.e. probably no private messages (totally new scope, not covered by the original spec, already solved by e-mail), no pastebin (already solved by other programs), no chat, … Then again, not even dwm is “pure”, because it has a built-in bar, which maybe should be an individual program. 🤔
@prologic @adi Hmm, I guess for twtxt.net it means something like “be a microblogging platform”, i.e. probably no private messages (totally new scope, not covered by the original spec, already solved by e-mail), no pastebin (already solved by other programs), no chat, … Then again, not even dwm is “pure”, because it has a built-in bar, which maybe should be an individual program. 🤔
@prologic @adi Hmm, I guess for twtxt.net it means something like “be a microblogging platform”, i.e. probably no private messages (totally new scope, not covered by the original spec, already solved by e-mail), no pastebin (already solved by other programs), no chat, … Then again, not even dwm is “pure”, because it has a built-in bar, which maybe should be an individual program. 🤔
@prologic @adi Hmm, I guess for twtxt.net it means something like “be a microblogging platform”, i.e. probably no private messages (totally new scope, not covered by the original spec, already solved by e-mail), no pastebin (already solved by other programs), no chat, … Then again, not even dwm is “pure”, because it has a built-in bar, which maybe should be an individual program. 🤔
@vain @prologic I don't necessarily believe the bar is out of scope, believe it's a "soft" programmer decision there. If you prefer something even more stripped down you can take a look at https://github.com/wmutils.
@vain @prologic I don't necessarily believe the bar is out of scope, believe it's a "soft" programmer decision there. If you prefer something even more stripped down you can take a look at https://github.com/wmutils.
@vain @prologic I don't necessarily believe the bar is out of scope, believe it's a "soft" programmer decision there. If you prefer something even more stripped down you can take a look at https://github.com/wmutils.
@adi @vain @prologic to me it is, especially with the way the claim things should be. they go on and on about needless features and such and then they put a bar and keybindings in their wm. i could go on but i don't want this to become a rant more than it is already :D
@adi @vain @prologic to me it is, especially with the way the claim things should be. they go on and on about needless features and such and then they put a bar and keybindings in their wm. i could go on but i don't want this to become a rant more than it is already :D