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@prologic you know, it doesn't seem to be widely appreciated but the bad segments of the right wing have always been very tech savvy. They're usually one of the first big groups on the scene when new technology arises, and they're often some of the last holdouts too. Like some kind of fungus.
@abucci When you say "right wing", can you clarify what you mean? 🤔 (just in case our language is not the same somehow...) -- I never understood these (silly IMO) terms "left wing" vs. "right wing" and once day I set out to try to "educate" myself on the matter and read up on the political compass -- Took the rest too. Seems like it was well worth the effort and these guys appears to do good research on the subject(s) (economic positions and social positions).
@abucci When you say "right wing", can you clarify what you mean? 🤔 (just in case our language is not the same somehow...) -- I never understood these (silly IMO) terms "left wing" vs. "right wing" and once day I set out to try to "educate" myself on the matter and read up on the political compass -- Took the rest too. Seems like it was well worth the effort and these guys appears to do good research on the subject(s) (economic positions and social positions).
@abucci When you say "right wing", can you clarify what you mean? 🤔 (just in case our language is not the same somehow...) -- I never understood these (silly IMO) terms "left wing" vs. "right wing" and once day I set out to try to "educate" myself on the matter and read up on the political compass -- Took the rest too. Seems like it was well worth the effort and these guys appears to do good research on the subject(s) (economic positions and social positions).
@abucci When you say "right wing", can you clarify what you mean? 🤔 (just in case our language is not the same somehow...) -- I never understood these (silly IMO) terms "left wing" vs. "right wing" and once day I set out to try to "educate" myself on the matter and read up on the political compass -- Took the rest too. Seems like it was well worth the effort and these guys appears to do good research on the subject(s) (economic positions and social positions).
@prologic I was being lazy with words because I *didn't* want to spell out what I meant by that lol. But the way I like to divide things in my head is roughly based on whether people subjected to a rule/law/policy get to have a say in whether that rule/law/policy is enacted and enforced. Right wingers tend to think that rules/laws/policies should be created by a select few and enforced on man, whereas left wingers think more people should be involved (at least at the level of electing the people who make the laws).

I guess that's more of an "authoritarian" versus "not authoritarian" division, but that's how things tend to shake out in the US these days (this book goes into some depth about how you measure authoritarian tendencies, and how closely correlated those measures are with Republican vs. Democrat--or right wing vs. left wing if you prefer--in the US 1). These politics things are never simple, so no one person is going to be fully left-wing or right-wing about every single topic and I don't mean to imply that. And I also don't want to get into a long thread trying to defend or elaborate on what I'm saying here!

Footnote (a quote from the introduction to the book *The Authoritarians*):

> Authoritarianism is something authoritarian followers and authoritarian
leaders cook up between themselves. It happens when the followers submit too
much to the leaders, trust them too much, and give them too much leeway to do
whatever they want--which often is something undemocratic, tyrannical and
brutal. In my day, authoritarian fascist and authoritarian communist dictatorships
posed the biggest threats to democracies, and eventually lost to them in wars
both hot and cold. But authoritarianism itself has not disappeared, and I=m going
to present the case in this book that the greatest threat to American democracy
today arises from a militant authoritarianism that has become a cancer upon the
nation.=
@prologic I was being lazy with words because I *didn't* want to spell out what I meant by that lol. But the way I like to divide things in my head is roughly based on whether people subjected to a rule/law/policy get to have a say in whether that rule/law/policy is enacted and enforced.

I guess that's more of an "authoritarian" versus "not authoritarian" division, but that's how things tend to shake out in the US these days (this book goes into some depth about how you measure authoritarian tendencies, and how closely correlated those measures are with Republican vs. Democrat--or right wing vs. left wing if you prefer--in the US 1). These politics things are never simple, so no one person is going to be fully left-wing or right-wing about every single topic and I don't mean to imply that. And I also don't want to get into a long thread trying to defend or elaborate on what I'm saying here!

Footnote:

> Authoritarianism is something authoritarian followers and authoritarian
leaders cook up between themselves. It happens when the followers submit too
much to the leaders, trust them too much, and give them too much leeway to do
whatever they want--which often is something undemocratic, tyrannical and
brutal. In my day, authoritarian fascist and authoritarian communist dictatorships
posed the biggest threats to democracies, and eventually lost to them in wars
both hot and cold. But authoritarianism itself has not disappeared, and I=m going
to present the case in this book that the greatest threat to American democracy
today arises from a militant authoritarianism that has become a cancer upon the
nation.=
@prologic I was being lazy with words because I *didn't* want to spell out what I meant by that lol. But the way I like to divide things in my head is roughly based on whether people subjected to a rule/law/policy get to have a say in whether that rule/law/policy is enacted and enforced.

I guess that's more of an "authoritarian" versus "not authoritarian" division, but that's how things tend to shake out in the US these days ([this book](https://theauthoritarians.org goes into some depth about how you measure authoritarian tendencies, and how closely correlated those measures are with Republican vs. Democrat--or right wing vs. left wing if you prefer--in the US 1). These politics things are never simple, so no one person is going to be fully left-wing or right-wing about every single topic and I don't mean to imply that. And I also don't want to get into a long thread trying to defend or elaborate on what I'm saying here!

Footnote:

> Authoritarianism is something authoritarian followers and authoritarian
leaders cook up between themselves. It happens when the followers submit too
much to the leaders, trust them too much, and give them too much leeway to do
whatever they want--which often is something undemocratic, tyrannical and
brutal. In my day, authoritarian fascist and authoritarian communist dictatorships
posed the biggest threats to democracies, and eventually lost to them in wars
both hot and cold. But authoritarianism itself has not disappeared, and I=m going
to present the case in this book that the greatest threat to American democracy
today arises from a militant authoritarianism that has become a cancer upon the
nation.=
@prologic I was being lazy with words because I *didn't* want to spell out what I meant by that lol. But the way I like to divide things in my head is roughly based on whether people subjected to a rule/law/policy get to have a say in whether that rule/law/policy is enacted and enforced.

I guess that's more of an "authoritarian" versus "not authoritarian" division, but that's how things tend to shake out in the US these days ([this book](https://theauthoritarians.org goes into some depth about how you measure authoritarian tendencies, and how closely correlated those measures are with Republican vs. Democrat--or right wing vs. left wing if you prefer--in the US [1]). These politics things are never simple, so no one person is going to be fully left-wing or right-wing about every single topic and I don't mean to imply that. And I also don't want to get into a long thread trying to defend or elaborate on what I'm saying here!

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> Authoritarianism is something authoritarian followers and authoritarian
leaders cook up between themselves. It happens when the followers submit too
much to the leaders, trust them too much, and give them too much leeway to do
whatever they want--which often is something undemocratic, tyrannical and
brutal. In my day, authoritarian fascist and authoritarian communist dictatorships
posed the biggest threats to democracies, and eventually lost to them in wars
both hot and cold. But authoritarianism itself has not disappeared, and I=m going
to present the case in this book that the greatest threat to American democracy
today arises from a militant authoritarianism that has become a cancer upon the
nation.=
@prologic I was being lazy with words because I *didn't* want to spell out what I meant by that lol. But the way I like to divide things in my head is roughly based on whether people subjected to a rule/law/policy get to have a say in whether that rule/law/policy is enacted and enforced.

I guess that's more of an "authoritarian" versus "not authoritarian" division, but that's how things tend to shake out in the US these days (this book goes into some depth about how you measure authoritarian tendencies, and how closely correlated those measures are with Republican vs. Democrat--or right wing vs. left wing if you prefer--in the US 1). These politics things are never simple, so no one person is going to be fully left-wing or right-wing about every single topic and I don't mean to imply that. And I also don't want to get into a long thread trying to defend or elaborate on what I'm saying here!

Footnote (a quote from the introduction to the book *The Authoritarians*):

> Authoritarianism is something authoritarian followers and authoritarian
leaders cook up between themselves. It happens when the followers submit too
much to the leaders, trust them too much, and give them too much leeway to do
whatever they want--which often is something undemocratic, tyrannical and
brutal. In my day, authoritarian fascist and authoritarian communist dictatorships
posed the biggest threats to democracies, and eventually lost to them in wars
both hot and cold. But authoritarianism itself has not disappeared, and I=m going
to present the case in this book that the greatest threat to American democracy
today arises from a militant authoritarianism that has become a cancer upon the
nation.=
@abucci Okay good, so we're on the same page... Now what I've "never" understood is the relationship between "right wing" / "authoritarian" politics and these (seemly) also "right-wing nutters" 😅

Are these sorts of people just folks that blindly love authoritarianism? 🤔
@abucci Okay good, so we're on the same page... Now what I've "never" understood is the relationship between "right wing" / "authoritarian" politics and these (seemly) also "right-wing nutters" 😅

Are these sorts of people just folks that blindly love authoritarianism? 🤔
@abucci Okay good, so we're on the same page... Now what I've "never" understood is the relationship between "right wing" / "authoritarian" politics and these (seemly) also "right-wing nutters" 😅

Are these sorts of people just folks that blindly love authoritarianism? 🤔
@abucci Okay good, so we're on the same page... Now what I've "never" understood is the relationship between "right wing" / "authoritarian" politics and these (seemly) also "right-wing nutters" 😅

Are these sorts of people just folks that blindly love authoritarianism? 🤔
s/enforced on man/enforced on many/