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Guys are children being forced to learn in your countries too in the first grades because they're "too small to understand"?
@adi what do you mean by “forced”? 🤔
@adi what do you mean by “forced”? 🤔
@prologic Being made to do stuff, like reading.
@prologic Being made to do stuff, like reading.
@adi I'm not sure that "force" is the right word here to be honest. Education in general is a "institutionalization" that's for sure, but you can't fundamentally force humans to do things no matter how young/small they are, there is always a balance to be had.
@adi I'm not sure that "force" is the right word here to be honest. Education in general is a "institutionalization" that's for sure, but you can't fundamentally force humans to do things no matter how young/small they are, there is always a balance to be had.
@prologic \n\n> but you can’t fundamentally force humans to do things\n\nIt's not a socially nice thing to do but people do force other people to do stuff and can.
@prologic
> but you can’t fundamentally force humans to do things
It's not a socially nice thing to do but people do force other people to do stuff and can.
@prologic \n\n> but you can’t fundamentally force humans to do things\n\nIt's not a socially nice thing to do but people do force other people to do stuff and can.
@prologic
> I’m not sure that “force” is the right word here to be honest
Making another person do something he isn't willing to do or isn't willingly doing counts as force.
> Education in general is a “institutionalization”
What do you mean by “institutionalization”?
@prologic \n\n> I’m not sure that “force” is the right word here to be honest\n\nMaking another person do something he isn't willing to do or isn't willingly doing counts as force.\n\n > Education in general is a “institutionalization”\n\nWhat do you mean by “institutionalization”?
@prologic \n\n> I’m not sure that “force” is the right word here to be honest\n\nMaking another person do something he isn't willing to do or isn't willingly doing counts as force.\n\n > Education in general is a “institutionalization”\n\nWhat do you mean by “institutionalization”?
@adi
> Making another person do something he isn’t willing to do or isn’t willingly doing counts as force.
Our family don't do this to our children nor do we allow it to happen.
> What do you mean by “institutionalization”?
This generally means the "education system" is mandated/mandatory, punishable by law if absent for > some percent of time in a year and is otherwise standardized to a point where the needs of individuals are ignored and children are brought up into a society of atomatoms.
@adi \n\n> Making another person do something he isn’t willing to do or isn’t willingly doing counts as force.\n\nOur family don't do this to our children nor do we allow it to happen.\n\n> What do you mean by “institutionalization”?\n\nThis generally means the "education system" is mandated/mandatory, punishable by law if absent for > some percent of time in a year and is otherwise standardized to a point where the needs of individuals are ignored and children are brought up into a society of atomatoms.
@adi
> Making another person do something he isn’t willing to do or isn’t willingly doing counts as force.
Our family don't do this to our children nor do we allow it to happen.
> What do you mean by “institutionalization”?
This generally means the "education system" is mandated/mandatory, punishable by law if absent for > some percent of time in a year and is otherwise standardized to a point where the needs of individuals are ignored and children are brought up into a society of atomatoms.
@prologic
> This generally means the “education system” is mandated/mandatory, punishable by law if absent for > some percent of time in a year and is otherwise standardized to a point where the needs of individuals are ignored and children are brought up into a society of atomatoms.
Depends on what you understand by "needs".
Problem arises when mandatory is interpreted as forced. Meaning "if it's mandatory in the Constitution we have a right to force them". Do you understand how this might happen?
@prologic \n\n> This generally means the “education system” is mandated/mandatory, punishable by law if absent for > some percent of time in a year and is otherwise standardized to a point where the needs of individuals are ignored and children are brought up into a society of atomatoms.\n\nDepends on what you understand by "needs".\n\nProblem arises when mandatory is interpreted as forced. Meaning "if it's mandatory in the Constitution we have a right to force them". Do you understand how this might happen?
@prologic \n\n> This generally means the “education system” is mandated/mandatory, punishable by law if absent for > some percent of time in a year and is otherwise standardized to a point where the needs of individuals are ignored and children are brought up into a society of atomatoms.\n\nDepends on what you understand by "needs".\n\nProblem arises when mandatory is interpreted as forced. Meaning "if it's mandatory in the Constitution we have a right to force them". Do you understand how this might happen?