Blackbird on a ridge with a slightly colored sky in the background
> Maybe your softwares are just perfect and there are simply no bug reports and contributions required. :-)
Haha. 😂 I guess my software is just way too irrelevant. 😅 Or maybe not. I just don’t know. I should add some telemetry. 😏
> I just also see the issue with smaller mail servers being blocked by the large ones. This also happened to me I believe. My mails just never made it to the people. Or they were ignored, I cannot tell.
To be honest, when I send private email, like insurance stuff or to the bank or similar, I always get a reply. The recipients are German mail servers, usually run by those institutions or individuals. Sometimes it’s MS Outlook or Telekom. In other words, it’s *not* Google. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm …
> Maybe your softwares are just perfect and there are simply no bug reports and contributions required. :-)
Haha. 😂 I guess my software is just way too irrelevant. 😅 Or maybe not. I just don’t know. I should add some telemetry. 😏
> I just also see the issue with smaller mail servers being blocked by the large ones. This also happened to me I believe. My mails just never made it to the people. Or they were ignored, I cannot tell.
To be honest, when I send private email, like insurance stuff or to the bank or similar, I always get a reply. The recipients are German mail servers, usually run by those institutions or individuals. Sometimes it’s MS Outlook or Telekom. In other words, it’s *not* Google. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm …
> Maybe your softwares are just perfect and there are simply no bug reports and contributions required. :-)
Haha. 😂 I guess my software is just way too irrelevant. 😅 Or maybe not. I just don’t know. I should add some telemetry. 😏
> I just also see the issue with smaller mail servers being blocked by the large ones. This also happened to me I believe. My mails just never made it to the people. Or they were ignored, I cannot tell.
To be honest, when I send private email, like insurance stuff or to the bank or similar, I always get a reply. The recipients are German mail servers, usually run by those institutions or individuals. Sometimes it’s MS Outlook or Telekom. In other words, it’s *not* Google. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm …
> Maybe your softwares are just perfect and there are simply no bug reports and contributions required. :-)
Haha. 😂 I guess my software is just way too irrelevant. 😅 Or maybe not. I just don’t know. I should add some telemetry. 😏
> I just also see the issue with smaller mail servers being blocked by the large ones. This also happened to me I believe. My mails just never made it to the people. Or they were ignored, I cannot tell.
To be honest, when I send private email, like insurance stuff or to the bank or similar, I always get a reply. The recipients are German mail servers, usually run by those institutions or individuals. Sometimes it’s MS Outlook or Telekom. In other words, it’s *not* Google. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm …
@movq No, both are a manmade lakes and ponds, but the fish are real. :-) In fact, the fish are in the much smaller "tadpole pond" as I call it. The tadpoles are now all gone and we've seen tiiiiiny frogs jumping around. But we were not successful in capturing them on film. Maybe fish were brought in these artificial lakes by mankind, too, I don't know. Good question.
I reckon if someone really wanted to participate, they will. Despite where it is hosted.
I just also see the issue with smaller mail servers being blocked by the large ones. This also happened to me I believe. My mails just never made it to the people. Or they were ignored, I cannot tell.
#catsoftwtxt
#catsoftwtxt
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> Should sit down and see what the contributions have been for some of my projects before and after the migration away from Github? 🤔
I might do that for my projects. 🤔
> Maybe it's a discovery problem too?
Yeah, well, apart from my own blog and rarely Mastodon, I don’t really talk about my projects anymore. I used to mention them on forums and reddit and the likes. Forums were really good for that. But I mean, forums are dying out as well, so where *do* you “promote” your projects? 🤔 On Mastodon, it usually gets drowned in the noise.
> I sure hope not, that kind of defeats the point of an ecosystem that is suppose to encourage distributed software development and distributed forms of collaboration. Right? 🤔
It does, yes. Question is, do people actually care about *distributed* development anymore? (Did they ever?)
> Should sit down and see what the contributions have been for some of my projects before and after the migration away from Github? 🤔
I might do that for my projects. 🤔
> Maybe it's a discovery problem too?
Yeah, well, apart from my own blog and rarely Mastodon, I don’t really talk about my projects anymore. I used to mention them on forums and reddit and the likes. Forums were really good for that. But I mean, forums are dying out as well, so where *do* you “promote” your projects? 🤔 On Mastodon, it usually gets drowned in the noise.
> I sure hope not, that kind of defeats the point of an ecosystem that is suppose to encourage distributed software development and distributed forms of collaboration. Right? 🤔
It does, yes. Question is, do people actually care about *distributed* development anymore? (Did they ever?)
> Should sit down and see what the contributions have been for some of my projects before and after the migration away from Github? 🤔
I might do that for my projects. 🤔
> Maybe it's a discovery problem too?
Yeah, well, apart from my own blog and rarely Mastodon, I don’t really talk about my projects anymore. I used to mention them on forums and reddit and the likes. Forums were really good for that. But I mean, forums are dying out as well, so where *do* you “promote” your projects? 🤔 On Mastodon, it usually gets drowned in the noise.
> I sure hope not, that kind of defeats the point of an ecosystem that is suppose to encourage distributed software development and distributed forms of collaboration. Right? 🤔
It does, yes. Question is, do people actually care about *distributed* development anymore? (Did they ever?)
> Should sit down and see what the contributions have been for some of my projects before and after the migration away from Github? 🤔
I might do that for my projects. 🤔
> Maybe it's a discovery problem too?
Yeah, well, apart from my own blog and rarely Mastodon, I don’t really talk about my projects anymore. I used to mention them on forums and reddit and the likes. Forums were really good for that. But I mean, forums are dying out as well, so where *do* you “promote” your projects? 🤔 On Mastodon, it usually gets drowned in the noise.
> I sure hope not, that kind of defeats the point of an ecosystem that is suppose to encourage distributed software development and distributed forms of collaboration. Right? 🤔
It does, yes. Question is, do people actually care about *distributed* development anymore? (Did they ever?)
Bom domingo :szsunglasses:
Bom domingo :szsunglasses:
Three butterflies
> Are we supposed to “forge hop” (as in “distro hop”) all the time, migrate from the most non-shitty hoster to the next? That can’t be the solution.
I sure hope not, that kind of defeats the point of an ecosystem that is suppose to encourage distributed software development and distributed forms of collaboration. Right? 🤔
How do we collectively improve things?
> Are we supposed to “forge hop” (as in “distro hop”) all the time, migrate from the most non-shitty hoster to the next? That can’t be the solution.
I sure hope not, that kind of defeats the point of an ecosystem that is suppose to encourage distributed software development and distributed forms of collaboration. Right? 🤔
How do we collectively improve things?
> I would never ask anyone to send me patches via Email.
That’s not even what I’m doing, but I just realized that my
bugs.html page isn’t really clear about that. It *implies* that patches are meant to be sent via email and I’m fine if that happens – but I don’t insist on people doing that. You might as well send me a link to your fork on GitHub or your own server or whatever.I should clarify that. 🤔
> I would never ask anyone to send me patches via Email.
That’s not even what I’m doing, but I just realized that my
bugs.html page isn’t really clear about that. It *implies* that patches are meant to be sent via email and I’m fine if that happens – but I don’t insist on people doing that. You might as well send me a link to your fork on GitHub or your own server or whatever.I should clarify that. 🤔
> I would never ask anyone to send me patches via Email.
That’s not even what I’m doing, but I just realized that my
bugs.html page isn’t really clear about that. It *implies* that patches are meant to be sent via email and I’m fine if that happens – but I don’t insist on people doing that. You might as well send me a link to your fork on GitHub or your own server or whatever.I should clarify that. 🤔
> I would never ask anyone to send me patches via Email.
That’s not even what I’m doing, but I just realized that my
bugs.html page isn’t really clear about that. It *implies* that patches are meant to be sent via email and I’m fine if that happens – but I don’t insist on people doing that. You might as well send me a link to your fork on GitHub or your own server or whatever.I should clarify that. 🤔
So … what’s stopping people?
> I'm not sure what else we can do? I'm nNOT moving back to Github, ever.
Same. There are alternatives like https://codeberg.org/ now, but does that really help? GitHub was also a small and independent platform once. Are we supposed to “forge hop” (as in “distro hop”) all the time, migrate from the most non-shitty hoster to the next? That can’t be the solution.
So … what’s stopping people?
> I'm not sure what else we can do? I'm nNOT moving back to Github, ever.
Same. There are alternatives like https://codeberg.org/ now, but does that really help? GitHub was also a small and independent platform once. Are we supposed to “forge hop” (as in “distro hop”) all the time, migrate from the most non-shitty hoster to the next? That can’t be the solution.
So … what’s stopping people?
> I'm not sure what else we can do? I'm nNOT moving back to Github, ever.
Same. There are alternatives like https://codeberg.org/ now, but does that really help? GitHub was also a small and independent platform once. Are we supposed to “forge hop” (as in “distro hop”) all the time, migrate from the most non-shitty hoster to the next? That can’t be the solution.
So … what’s stopping people?
> I'm not sure what else we can do? I'm nNOT moving back to Github, ever.
Same. There are alternatives like https://codeberg.org/ now, but does that really help? GitHub was also a small and independent platform once. Are we supposed to “forge hop” (as in “distro hop”) all the time, migrate from the most non-shitty hoster to the next? That can’t be the solution.
I agree, Email is a giant PITA. I would never ask anyone to send me patches via Email. However on a positive note, I do sometimes get folks reaching out to me on Signal and sometimes Email. Then we form a bit of a relationship, set things up and go from there. That is actually much nicer.
I'm not sure what else we can do? I'm nNOT moving back to Github, ever.
I agree, Email is a giant PITA. I would never ask anyone to send me patches via Email. However on a positive note, I do sometimes get folks reaching out to me on Signal and sometimes Email. Then we form a bit of a relationship, set things up and go from there. That is actually much nicer.
I'm not sure what else we can do? I'm nNOT moving back to Github, ever.
https://uninformativ.de/bugs.html
It basically says, when you find a bug, please send me an email.
Now I’ve read this:
https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/programming/EmailVsForgesUnfortunate
I hadn’t thought about this before. That’s a quite valid reason. 🫤 Sadly, it applies to *any* truly independent self-hosted service. That OAuth thingy (“Sign in with GitHub”) might be the only compromise …
(I rarely get any feedback on my projects, btw. jenny might be an exception, because we’re talking about it here sometimes. Overall, the number of bug reports has dropped significantly since I moved away from GitHub.)
https://uninformativ.de/bugs.html
It basically says, when you find a bug, please send me an email.
Now I’ve read this:
https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/programming/EmailVsForgesUnfortunate
I hadn’t thought about this before. That’s a quite valid reason. 🫤 Sadly, it applies to *any* truly independent self-hosted service. That OAuth thingy (“Sign in with GitHub”) might be the only compromise …
(I rarely get any feedback on my projects, btw. jenny might be an exception, because we’re talking about it here sometimes. Overall, the number of bug reports has dropped significantly since I moved away from GitHub.)
https://uninformativ.de/bugs.html
It basically says, when you find a bug, please send me an email.
Now I’ve read this:
https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/programming/EmailVsForgesUnfortunate
I hadn’t thought about this before. That’s a quite valid reason. 🫤 Sadly, it applies to *any* truly independent self-hosted service. That OAuth thingy (“Sign in with GitHub”) might be the only compromise …
(I rarely get any feedback on my projects, btw. jenny might be an exception, because we’re talking about it here sometimes. Overall, the number of bug reports has dropped significantly since I moved away from GitHub.)
https://uninformativ.de/bugs.html
It basically says, when you find a bug, please send me an email.
Now I’ve read this:
https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/programming/EmailVsForgesUnfortunate
I hadn’t thought about this before. That’s a quite valid reason. 🫤 Sadly, it applies to *any* truly independent self-hosted service. That OAuth thingy (“Sign in with GitHub”) might be the only compromise …
(I rarely get any feedback on my projects, btw. jenny might be an exception, because we’re talking about it here sometimes. Overall, the number of bug reports has dropped significantly since I moved away from GitHub.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCcf7GeBq-M
Too bad my electric double bass will never sound as majestic as an acoustic one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCcf7GeBq-M
Too bad my electric double bass will never sound as majestic as an acoustic one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCcf7GeBq-M
Too bad my electric double bass will never sound as majestic as an acoustic one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCcf7GeBq-M
Too bad my electric double bass will never sound as majestic as an acoustic one.