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Still two unresolved issues with WeeChat:
1. How can I mark the current buffer as read? There is /input set_unread to mark it as unread (although I can't tell that it does actually anything in the TUI) but there's no set_read command that would put my read marker below the last message. Sure I can switch buffers and then the read marker is at the bottom, but this sounds like a silly workaround. There must be something better.
2. I want the beep trigger to also fire when a regular message is sent. But the adjusted condition ${tg_displayed} && ${tg_tags} !!- ,notify_none, with the && (${tg_highlight} || ${tg_msg_pv}) removed then also includes joins and parts, which I don't want to be alerted by. Now fiddling around with ${tg_message_nocolor} !~ ^(-->|<--), let's see.
How do you folks do that?
@prologic Yep, encountered a few unanswered ones lately, too. But most of the time I can't complain.
@movq Whooooooooaaaaaahhhh, this looks super amazing, mate! \\o/ I definitely have to give this a try.
@movq Whooooooooaaaaaahhhh, this looks super amazing, mate! \o/ I definitely have to give this a try.
@movq Yeah, it's also a bit of a chicken egg problem. If you have unqualified people, they can't do a lot of stuff but they have to do something, so then they're shunt off to support. And there they can't really improve because they're always overloaded. And not getting any respect they deserve also doesn't help their motivation, so the downwards spiral continues. There's more to it, but in my opinion that's one key factor.
@movq Yeah, if not exactly what I'm after, I get new ideas and hints for a refined next search attempt. I haven't posted anything either, I'm just reading existing questions and answers.
@prologic Hahahahaha, very nicely put, mate! :-D
@prologic Well, I have to confess that whenever a Stack Overflow post pops up in the search results of my least mistrusted search engine the answer(s) there are spot on and exactly what I'm looking for most of the time. Of course there are the occasional exception, but I'm actually very happy with what I dig up there. Sometimes I need to scroll through a few answes to get what I need, but in general the first answer appearing below the question is fairly good. There are super bad answers, no doubt. But you can tell them apart immediately and just skip them right away.
@prologic @movq Absolutely. Not a lot was achieved, but again, this week flew by. So will be the weekend. :-/
Now brace yourself, the tech world stands still for a while: "Stack Overflow is currently offline for maintenance"
Rien ne vas plus
@movq Great upcycling! Very nice.
Hoch die Hände, Wochenende! \o/
Hoch die Hände, Wochenende! \\o/
@movq From my limited experiences in two companies I can anedoctic tell you, that what we developers told our support work mates after analyzing things and what they replied back to the enquirers was not always the same. That also happend when we gave them answers in written form. Always super nice support folks, no a single doubt, but their basic technical knowledge was pretty much non-existent. And plenty of them didn't even really know the softwares they're supposed to support. Granted, those were not easy programs, one was indeed super complex. But if they use them on a daily basis for years one would expect that they know them quite well. At least the main features and workflows. We also often had to tell them basic stuff several times, which was quite a bit frustrating for both sides.
But, I was super glad, that we had them in the front row. You wouldn't believe what crap queries they had to deal with and what utter bullshit they kept off our shoulders. Sometimes people wrote really offensive e-mails for no reason. Holy moly. I wouldn't want to trade with them, not in a hundred years. Lots of my developer work mates, however, didn't value our first level support at all. I mean, I totally understand, that after telling the same things over and over and over and over again it pisses you off, but treating them in a way they feel like shit, doesn't help either. It only makes things worse. I had the impression that there was a slight war between development and support.
One thing that was totally stupid, is that the POs didn't listen to improvements and suggestions on how to make things easier for the support team and also all our users. I mean, support has to deal with this software all day long and also get the same questions about workflows and stuff that's too complicated or unintuitive. So a lot of things were really low hanging fruit to improve everybody's live. But when they suggested anything, the POs always declined it, nah, it's the support's job. Period. A few times I teamed up with the support work mates and told the POs the same, the support team was suggesting and then it was accepted without hesitation. So that clearly shows there really was a two-tier society.
In my current project we don't have a support team, so we need to handle all the support queries ourselves. In that regard I miss the old project. But luckily, it's basically just other developers who are needing our help, so that's fairly okay.
Oh nice, there's now a bit rain and even lightning in the distance. \o/ \o/ \o/ Let's hope that that doesn't start a fire.
Oh nice, there's now a bit rain and even lightning in the distance. \\o/ \\o/ \\o/ Let's hope that that doesn't start a fire.
@movq @prologic When searching for a replacement I came across somebody telling, that nobody used it and it shouldn't be needed anyways, so they removed it and put a half^Wfully-assed implementation in place. Can't find it now. But I found this bug report that is linked in the addon's readme and also an article by the same guy opening the bug report. I haven't read any of them.
@screem @prologic @movq Now you can write everything as oneliners! Java developers will appreciate the new space they got. ;-)
Before we were sexually herrassed by flying ants in the end, we picked the first blackberries of the season on today's hike. Very yummy, let me tell you!
First forest blackberries picked and eaten
It's super dry everywhere, just have a look at the dried out grass in the first two photos. Two nights ago we had the first and biggest forest fire about eight kilometers away. The newspaper article claims that 7,000 m² (sic!) of forest were on fire. In the morning of that day the district fire chief introduced the new alarm plan for forest fires. Eight fire brigades responded with 83 fire fighters in 17 vehicles. Eight trucks shuttled 30,000 liters of water to the scene. Luckily, four and a half hours later they had it under control. A fire fighting drone specialists department of a neighboring fire service located several pockets of embers. I wasn't even aware, that we have such specialists here in the county, pretty cool. Unfortunately, one fire man probably broke his Achilles tendon in this fire run, the article says.
Other than that, there had been four other wildland fires with a hedge, bunch of trees, a 20,000 m² big stubble fields and another vegetation fire since June in our county. I actually didn't know that. Well, that's all nothing compared to the fires they have in East Germany at the moment.
Thank you Mozilla, you bloody &%$&"/§%("). After removing the ability to switch the character encoding and replacing it with an always disabled "Repair text encoding" menu item, I had to install this third-party Override Text Encoding extension.
@movq @prologic I tried to think about it once more today, but still no luck yet. However, I reckon that when I try to grasp something in a very focused way, then I *imagine* how I would loudly read it (but actually don't) and hear myself. I'm quite certain about that. In more extreme cases I even noticed my lips slightly moving, but not creating any sound. But most of the time I don't think there's a voice. The tricky thing is, if I don't think about how it works in general, I don't know. And if I try to think about it, it feels like introducing tons of measuring errors. I just found Schrödinger's cat in my brain.
@movq Whaaaaat… O_o No offence, but there's often a reason that first level support works at first level support. I'm not helpful, I know.
@prologic Haha, the colors :-D @ionores @movq Thank you mates! Well, there is a gelatine factory in the next city, but that is quite far away from where I was. You only smell that awful stuff (it's also a different stench) if you're close by. Probably just dying animals and the temperatures are not helping here. The vomits remain a mystery, though.
@prologic Hahahaha, great typo, I had to laugh! Shot probably doesn't feel too much different in your situation right now. :-D Jokes aside, get well mate!
Maybe call in sick and have a good rest. Sleeping most of the day and drinking a whole lot of tea and/or water sometimes makes a big difference for me when I'm knocked out. I'm convinced that reporting sick a day even speeds up the recovery and is a clear win in the end. Considering the reduced productivity when being ill and all the additional errors one is going to make for several days and the time spent afterwards to fix them or rework stuff, one's better off to don't to anything for one or two days and then take that time to really rest and give the body the time to get things sorted. At least in my limited and biased experience. Your mileage may vary, of course might be different for other folks.
@prologic Thanks mate! Hahaha, I can assure you, I've shown these places a hundred times already. :-D But I'm glad that my selection seems alright and it's not getting boring over time. Well, to be fair, the lion is a fairly recent addition when they replaced the old benches and fenced off a steep trail over a meadow, so mountain bikers don't ride down this path anymore. The tree stump is a knot in a bench timber. :-) The carriage bolt fastens the seat to the frame.
@prologic Oh yeah, that also works like a treat! :-D I heard a bunch of these bloody wankers today as well. They were a few kilometers away, so I would have needed a high precision ballista.
Went on a hike this evening and brought my camera along. The 26°C felt much nicer than yesterday's 33°C. I perfectly met a mate who also wanted to go for a quick walk, just like we planned it. The first half hour we went together and then I parted for the longer route to the local mountain. The sunset was absolutely brilliant, but the aftermath turned out to be very boring.
Sunset
Photo 9 shows the entrance to a wasp nest next to the bench in the previous take. The greenery blocks most the view, though. Several individuals took off and returned. But it wasn't too crowded. Nothing like at a typical honey bee hive at this point in time
What I found quite strange, there was quite a lot of smell of dead meat and butyric acid in the air. Hello hot summer. Both in the forest as well as in the village. I think I noticed those nasty odors at six or seven different places. Never experienced that before. Not to thaaat extent.
@movq @mckinley Yup, some people do. I tried several times to figure out whether I also have some imaginary voice in my head or not. And I can't really tell. My best bet is that it depends. Generally there is no voice or just a very faint one. For very complex stuff I think my brain plays some audio. But it's very hard to tell. If I try to think about it, it feels super weird in my head.
@akoizumi Yup, I destroyed a few files with that myself, too. On a positive nite, it doesn't create an infinite loop.
@movq To show the world they have to compensate for their small dick. In situtations like these, I'd often like to have a wire handy.
@movq Es kann so einfach sein!
@movq Now that is a cool thing. Showing the work time. I need something like that, too!
@prologic Damn, I was 100% sure to have set visibility to public, but I'm also prompted to log in. O_o Turns out, the project move must have ruined this setting somehow. Should now work.
@carsten Ich wollt's grad sagen, damit kommst Du nicht weit. ;-)
@prologic Haha, of course, no worries! :-) Yup, I thought to try Go for this web application this time. REST API and web UI would be both needed in my opinion. I have at least two mates who would need a UI instead of a programmer-friendly interface. :-D
It's far from complete, but I started writing something down: https://git.isobeef.org/lyse/kraftwerk2
@prologic Collaborating on the refactoring/rewrite of the "Kraftwerk" as I called it? Sure, why not. At least the user authentication part needs to be replaced, it was wired against an LDAP that doesn't exist anymore. Also the API (so that you could just send in your exercises via a script) was kind of broken. I reckon starting from scratch would be best. I just saw my first commit was ten years ago, holy crap!
@prologic Simpler is better even most of the time, I'd say. :-)
@movq Na die Symmetrieachse verläuft doch durch die mittlere Wurst. Oder wie waren die angeordnet? Sieben deshalb, dass es für eine Woche reicht. Oder so.
@ionores Indeed! :-( The only good thing is that I haven't heard of any fires yet over here. The fire danger rating reached the highest level we have here days ago. On Thursday when we dared to go for a hike we've seen new signs put up warning about that and banning all fires, even smoking. We do not have any fixed sign installations like Australia or the North American states.
@eaplmx That reminds me, I should start doing some exercises, too. Years ago, I wrote a web application to track those and two other mates used it as well. This way we motivated us to do our daily pushups and situps. I even extended it to upload GPX trajectories from our bike rides and hikes to show the route on an OSM map. Finally, you could enter your weights and get a nice graph with all the ups and downs. I should revibe this project. And maybe even rewrite it.
@ullarah I always enjoy crafts stuff, very nice! How did you make these golden speckles? Put color on a stiffer brush and then pull back the fibers to shoot the color through the air onto the guitar body?
@prologic Sadly, the old site looked better than the new one. :-/ Good report, though! Reminds me of several similarities at work.
@prologic 100 liters are one cubic meter, so that doesn't sound too unrealistic in a whole month. Looking at the climate diagrams of Stuttgart and Ulm (they're the closest cities where I could find data for in a hurry) it seems to be in the ballpark. Admittedly, this number matches June better than July.
@movq I had to build the drawers myself, too. ;-)
@prologic What's a lot? @movq I'm glad it rained much more in the end than I expected, but still a lot less than I was hoping for. Also the cooling was a couple of hours late. Today, we had the chance of breathing a wee bit before it will raise again tomorrow.
I just read that on average we get about 108 liters of rain per square meter in July. This year it has only been 6 liters so far. I truly hope that we get some heavy rain later this evening. But looking at the forecast I reckon it will only be a few drops, if at all. It's supposed to get less and less with each day and even hour I look at the weather report. :-( Terrible 35°C at the moment. Bwäh!
@movq I always put it in the drawer of my desk cabinet when I'm done. That's part of my quitting time ceremony each day. :-)
@kt84 Never. At least not from my tech mates.
Alright, grepping for line in _~/.weechat_ made me realize to /set weechat.look.read_marker_always_show on. I also added a new trigger that matches everthings and then beeps (I should probably exclude join and part events). I didn't realize the default beep trigger is only for highlights and private messages._~
@xuu At least for now I don't need remote frontends, but who knows what the future brings. :-)
Is there any setting or script to render a line in the chat buffer to indicate the last read messages? I fail to find anything. For irssi it would be the trackbar.pl script. Also, the beep settings seem not to work for what ever reason. It's just not sending a BEL to my terminal. Hm. :-(
@mckinley Oh, right. It didn't occur to me that this could be anything else than the outside temperature. Glad you're not melted. :-)
@mckinley The first one is the best in my opinion. I just watched the video from the updated article on the floppy disk array and had to smile as well. Thanks. ;-)
@movq Oh, for some reason I always thought that WeeChat was a graphical client. I will try out WeeChat then, thanks for bringing it to my attention.
@carsten That's looking really beautiful, mate! Somewhere in Scandinavia I'd say, maybe Norway?
@movq Aha, I never heard of PipeWire. Good thing you explained the context to @prologic, I actually thought you're quoting a real jackass phrase. :-D
I'm trying to switch from Konversation to irssi. Let's see how that goes. Any irssiers out there who can recommend specific settings or scripts? I already got myself trackbar.pl and nickcolor.pl as super-essentials. Also trying window_switcher.pl. Somehow my custom binds for Ctrl+1/2/3/etc. to switch to window 1/2/3/etc. doesn't do anything: { key = "^1"; id = "change_window"; data = "1"; } (I cannot use the default with Alt as this is handled by my window manager). Currently, I'm just cycling with Ctrl+N/P. Other things to solve in the near future:
* better, more colorful and compact theme (just removed clock from statusbar so far)
* getting bell/urgency hints working on arriving messages
* nicer tabs in status bar, maybe even just channel names and no indexes
* decluster status bar with user and channel modes (I never cared about those in the last decade)
@prologic That's an even cooler slider, thanks! @mckinley I'm also on the fence of changing my current background:
Pluto
(44°C, what the heck!)
@prologic No, haven't seen them yet. Do you have a link?
@thecanine @prologic In drawing guessing games over here one often quickly starts with dog, cat, mouse.
@thecanine It's recognizable just because we know what it should be. ;-).
@prologic Back in the days in an R&D project we ran into something similar (or the same? – didn't read the article). I don't remember the details anymore, but each containerized JVM thought, that it could use up the whole hardware cluster system resources and didn't obey the limits set in the container. And then of course it got killed.
@prologic At the end he says something in Zulu. But that of course is not a real conversation. @movq Yeah, I didn't know either that there are also non-clicks, too. But making use of at least vovels makes total sense, they appear to be quite universal. There's also Ubuntu, however, I didn't know that this is in fact Zulu, too. I just knew it's an African word. Just looked it up when you came around the corner with Icinga.
@movq Das sind mir fast zu viele Informationen (oder bin es halt noch nicht gewohnt), ich muss mal genauer mit den verschiedenen Ansichten rumspielen. Bei zwei Wochen kann ich auch eine Münze schmeißen, das wird genauso gut hinhauen. ;-)
Exactly, I have to explicitly follow a feed in order for it to show up. So, I don't care either. :-)
@kt84 This is beautiful! I'd like to trade our temperatures from tomorrow on. Approaching and then exceeding 30°C here. 22°C today were alright.
Oh man, the evening light was sooooo bloody awesome and also the sky seemed off a picture-book. And I didn't bring my camera. Came home about quarter an hour too late, sun was already set.
@off_grid_living Very nice shots, this makes the size much more visible. Good luck with the rest of the wire netting, don't break your neck.
@movq This is just cool how you recalibrated! I also doubt that fiddling around with the remaining left to right tilt is worth the effort at the end. Looking forward to see the project completed. You could use the shutter photo on the opening scene. Maybe take a few more in different positions to simulate an opening theater curtain. ;-)
@mckinley Ah, interesting. Luckily, history got you covered. ;-)
My connecting train was cancelled, so I decided to go for a night walk with a bit of a detour. It was absolutely worth it, saw a rabbit in front of me crossing the road and the clear sky in the forest made the stars pop nicely. Also super quiet once I left the city and the overgrown paths in the woods were incredibly dark. It was very, very hard to even make out the way. Luckily, I've walked it many, many times, so anticipating turns was doneable. Quite an adventure! Took me about 1:15 hours to reach home about 15 minutes ago. So I won't make it to today's call, sorry mates. I'll hopefully sleep like a rock in a few minutes.
@mckinley Being German I naturally don't care for flags, but I have to admit the colored version on your website looks even nicer than the black and white one here. Are JGS at the very end the true initials of your name? And I can't resist to ask which two states you left out? ]:-> Anyways, enjoy your holiday!
@thecanine And so the quest for the smallest number of pixels required to draw a dog continues. Still recognizable, no issues. And not bad of a result either. :-) I just have to squint a bit.
@retrocrash Ah, nice. Yeah, intentially removing things is a good way to keep trusting the system. :-)
Nothing quite like a few days ago, but I also pulled up the shutters a bit too late. This is what I saw a couple of minutes ago:
Colorful clouds in the sunset, it looks like the cloud god was a bit lazy and just used copy & paste
Don't worry, @prologic. :-) Except for one other I couldn't do that with all my other hiking mates. Not even close. To complicate things even further, there were some rougher spots and all the inclines would slow down progress substantially. At least one hour on top, probably even two.
To be fair, when I started all the hiking a few years back, my endurance was really low, too. I couldn't have done that back then in this time. I went out for half an hour to an hour, then I was whacked. Nothing comes from nothing.
@prologic This is quite fast, yes. But we both are quite fast walkers, so the speed wasn't too bad. The heat was way more brutal, especially since we had a lot of sections without shade. It's hard to guess but maybe 50:50 in the shade and in the sun. Luckily, I wore my trusty Akubra. And we had to be very economical with our water, since we only decided on the way to go for the trip we had talked about months ago. So we weren't prepared for it.
But we had the paths mostly for us, there were only very few other people around. So that was cool.
My mate and I spontaneously decided to go for a longer tour today in 29°C heat. We ended up hiking 23 km in 4:30 hours. I had two liters of mineral water in my backpack and we bought a bottle of cherry limonade each on the way in. In the end we opted for pear limo at the same self-service fridge. What a great invention these small vending machines and self-service huts are! In Germany shops are closed on Sundays, so we would have needed to find an open restaurant (plenty didn't survive Corona) with some detours.
It was my first time on that particular terrain. We went through some beautiful and quaint forest paths with scenic views. I forgot to put my SD card back into my camera, so no photos until my mate will send me his.
Now my feet a cooling off in a bucket of cold water. Superb.
@movq @prologic I just reread the spec and it seems to be even a bit outdated regarding machine-parsable conversation grouping. We long dropped the need to specify a whole hash tag with URL (#<hash url>), the simplified version without the URL (#hash) is enough.
The hash tag extension specification is kind of missing the same. However, I'm not sure if that short form is considered supported in general (as opposed to be a special case for subjects only) by the majority of the twtxt/yarn community.
Now the question arises, in order to keep things simple, should we even only allow the simplified twt hash tag for subjects and forbid the long version? This would also save quite a bit of space. The URL is probably not shown anyways in most clients. And if so, clients might rewrite URLs to their own instances. On the other hand, there's technically nothing wrong with the long version in current parser implementations. And deprecating stuff without very good reason isn't cool.
@tkanos Oh fuck, that's really bad! :'-(
@prologic @movq Thanks mates! Yeah, lens flares rock. But especially for 24 I had several attempts to take one without any flares to more closely match the beautiful reality. I failed miserably. Still super cool shot, though.
That's quite a setup, @retrocrash. When did you start it?
@will Oh, that huge sucker! Erie has the area of an average federal state here. You could put our biggest lake 48 times into Erie, areawise. Volume, however, only 10 times to fill it up. Truly mindblowing.
@darch Although already rejected, but what are channels? How would they work?
@movq I need to think about it a bit. But I tend to deprecation rather than removal.
Yesterday, we had a heavy thunderstorm in the evening. At first it wasn't too bad, just thunder in the distance and then a few drops of rain for at most five minutes. That was it. Alright, I thought, it's over, let me call a mate and walk to the dairy farm. The heavy clouds looked awesome, a bit threatening but mostly harmless and just beautiful. We decided on a small detour to the home made ice cream vending machine and got ourselves some expensive, but very yummy pineapple/mint, yoghurt and raspberry/basil tubs. Mint was super strong, had to eat three spoons of some other flavors to actually taste it. A few spoons in and then the thunder rolled in from nowhere. So we quickly headed for the dairy farm while eating our ice creams. Half way there the sky floodgates opened and we took cover under a tree at the local playground. A minute later we decided to climb up the slide tower, because it had a proper roof. A tiny bit of hail cam down, but nothing serious.
About 15-20 minutes the rain stopped and the thunder and lighning rolled past. So we continued our journey and I finally filled my two one liter bottles successfully. Every now and then it drizzled a little bit through the forest. We reached our homes and a couple minutes later rain hit again. Thunder and lighning went crazy. The sky lit up every few seconds and this continued through half of the night.
Right after I hung up to meet my mate, another mate called and reported a few villages north of us they experienced hail sized a bit under golf balls. But he luckily managed to get the car in the underground carpark in time.
Today, it rained the whole morning. This was great since the temperatures stayed below 20°C, so my walk was a real joy. It's going to get close to 30°C tomorrow, though, gnarf, örks, bwäh. :-(
Sunset, once again
I see, @movq. My grandpa did a ballon trip about 20 years ago. He then got a very long name that he had to memorize and recite when called in the middle of the night. :-) Indeed, @prologic!
@carsten And now you added a rule to move mails matching * into the trash? ]:-> And why the heck does it take time for new rules to take effect? Not confidence-inspiring at all.
@will That looks rather nice. It seems to be a really huge lake. Can't even see land at the horizon.
@carsten I agree, error handling often takes up much more than the happy path. My first work mate hammered that into me right at the beginning of my work life. Even if you don't think that something can fail, chances are it still might. So always be safe than sorry. This attitude quickly proofed to be correct. Sure enough, I ran into – and luckily handled – errors that were initially thought to be impossible. I'm very grateful for these valuable lessons.
Carina Nebula
Colors over colors in the sky!