# I am the Watcher. I am your guide through this vast new twtiverse.
# 
# Usage:
#     https://watcher.sour.is/api/plain/users              View list of users and latest twt date.
#     https://watcher.sour.is/api/plain/twt                View all twts.
#     https://watcher.sour.is/api/plain/mentions?uri=:uri  View all mentions for uri.
#     https://watcher.sour.is/api/plain/conv/:hash         View all twts for a conversation subject.
# 
# Options:
#     uri     Filter to show a specific users twts.
#     offset  Start index for quey.
#     limit   Count of items to return (going back in time).
# 
# twt range = 1 64
# self = https://watcher.sour.is/conv/3x6bsna
darch
neotxt.dk
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I have added a webmention endpoint to https://darch.dk using https://webmention.io - let see if it work from neotxt.dk to @sorenpeter
eapl.me
eapl.me
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did it work? 😮
darch
neotxt.dk
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@eapl.me nope
darch
neotxt.dk
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But I manged to send myself a webmetion using curl -i -d "source=http://algorave.dk&target=http://darch.dk" https://webmention.io/darch.dk/webmention since I got a link on algorave.dk to darch.dk

@prologic is there a feature flag to add for webmention support or how does it work?
I excepted if I mentioned my feed on darch.dk @sorenpeter then it would send a webmention to that domain, but where is the link on the yarn pod, that confirms the mention?
darch
neotxt.dk
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But I manged to send myself a webmetion using curl -i -d "source=http://algorave.dk&target=http://darch.dk" https://webmention.io/darch.dk/webmention since I got a link on algorave.dk to darch.dk

@prologic is there a feature flag to add for webmention support or how does it work?
I excepted if I mentioned my feed on darch.dk @sorenpeter then it would send a webmention to that domain, but where is the link on the yarn pod, that confirms the mention?

EDIT: I found this 7 months old issue: #1156 - Webmention: a source doesn't mention the target - yarn - Mills
darch
neotxt.dk
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But I manged to send myself a webmetion using curl -i -d "source=http://algorave.dk&target=http://darch.dk" https://webmention.io/darch.dk/webmention since I got a link on algorave.dk to darch.dk

@prologic is there a feature flag to add for webmention support or how does it work?
I excepted if I mentioned my feed on darch.dk @sorenpeter then it would send a webmention to that domain, but where is the link on the yarn pod, that confirms the mention?

I found this 7 months old issue: #1156 - Webmention: a source doesn't mention the target - yarn - Mills
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch I'll have a look later this week if you can remind me 🙏
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch I'll have a look later this week if you can remind me 🙏
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch I'll have a look later this week if you can remind me 🙏
darch
neotxt.dk
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@prologic here is your reminder in form of my Notes on Webmetions for Twtxt
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch Thanks! 🙏 What's the end goal here? 🤔
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch Thanks! 🙏 What's the end goal here? 🤔
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch Thanks! 🙏 What's the end goal here? 🤔
darch
neotxt.dk
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@prologic To outline what is needed for implementing webmetnion in a twtxt-webapp like twtxt-php/timeline or yarnd
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch No I mean, what do we want to achieve with WebMentions that doesn't already work across pods in yarnd? One issue I see is adoption.
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch No I mean, what do we want to achieve with WebMentions that doesn't already work across pods in yarnd? One issue I see is adoption.
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch No I mean, what do we want to achieve with WebMentions that doesn't already work across pods in yarnd? One issue I see is adoption.
darch
neotxt.dk
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@prologic I'm trying to figure out how it works to begin with and how I can make it work with my own domain http://darch.dk -- See my questions above in https://neotxt.dk/conv/3x6bsna#jlrsduq
darch
neotxt.dk
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@prologic So I had a look at the yarnd source code, but can't say that I'm much wiser on how it send out webmention or how to send them to a yarnd pod. Can you break it down?
darch
neotxt.dk
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@prologicSo I had a look at the yarnd source code, but can't say that I'm much wiser on how it send out webmention or how to send them to a yarnd pod. Can you break it down?
xuu@dev.txt.sour.is
dev.txt.sour.is
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@darch webmentions are dispatched from here https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/yarn/src/branch/main/internal/post_handler.go#L160-L169
xuu
txt.sour.is
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@darch webmentions are dispatched from here https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/yarn/src/branch/main/internal/post_handler.go#L160-L169
darch
neotxt.dk
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@xuu thank you, but does it only work between yarnd pods or also to endpoints like https://webmention.io and does it it detect that I declared such an endpoint on darch.dk when someone mentions @sorenpeter ?
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch It should work with any endpoint but there's a condition around whether it fires a WebMention or not
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch It should work with any endpoint but there's a condition around whether it fires a WebMention or not
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch It should work with any endpoint but there's a condition around whether it fires a WebMention or not
darch
twtxt.net
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Trying to post from good old twtxt.txt. Should this trigger a webmention to @sorenpeter ?
prologic
twtxt.net
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The reason this is not working, is there is no Link header on your feed that you're mentiong: https://gist.mills.io/prologic/fc5290f62c07494590a7e4bc2804c126
prologic
twtxt.net
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The reason this is not working, is there is no Link header on your feed that you're mentiong: https://gist.mills.io/prologic/fc5290f62c07494590a7e4bc2804c126
prologic
twtxt.net
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The reason this is not working, is there is no Link header on your feed that you're mentiong: https://gist.mills.io/prologic/fc5290f62c07494590a7e4bc2804c126
prologic
twtxt.net
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If you have a look at any of the feeds on my pod, they all respond with a Link: header in the response.
prologic
twtxt.net
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If you have a look at any of the feeds on my pod, they all respond with a Link: header in the response.
prologic
twtxt.net
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If you have a look at any of the feeds on my pod, they all respond with a Link: header in the response.
prologic
twtxt.net
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I can see that your web page https://darch.dk/social has a <link rel="webmention" href="https://webmention.io/darch.dk/webmention"> in the page's<head> which his good. But that is not what you're linking to in your post, so that won't get sent a WebMention
prologic
twtxt.net
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I can see that your web page https://darch.dk/social has a <link rel="webmention" href="https://webmention.io/darch.dk/webmention"> in the page's<head> which his good. But that is not what you're linking to in your post, so that won't get sent a WebMention
prologic
twtxt.net
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I can see that your web page https://darch.dk/social has a <link rel="webmention" href="https://webmention.io/darch.dk/webmention"> in the page's<head> which his good. But that is not what you're linking to in your post, so that won't get sent a WebMention
prologic
twtxt.net
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If you mention @this it _might_ work, bit weird though 😅
prologic
twtxt.net
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If you mention @this it _might_ work, bit weird though 😅
prologic
twtxt.net
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If you mention @this it _might_ work, bit weird though 😅
darch
neotxt.dk
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@prologic it does not😢
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch Yeah because it doesn't have a Link header
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch Yeah because it doesn't have a Link header
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch Yeah because it doesn't have a Link header
darch
neotxt.dk
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@prologic a link header where? It also need a link from here back to the link referred in the webmention
like this http://darch.dk/social/ and @that might work
darch
neotxt.dk
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Jibii!
darch
neotxt.dk
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So this was right all along: #1156 - Webmention: a source doesn't mention the target - yarn - Mills
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch Hmm need to look into this 🤔
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch Hmm need to look into this 🤔
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch Hmm need to look into this 🤔
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch I needn an example of where this breaks down I think. Do you happen to have one? 🤔 By all rights, looking at the code paths, the issue raised really doesn't make sense to me. The Source is the Twt permalink on the source pod that contains an @-mention of the target's Twtxt feed. So that should validate just fine hmm 🤔
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch I needn an example of where this breaks down I think. Do you happen to have one? 🤔 By all rights, looking at the code paths, the issue raised really doesn't make sense to me. The Source is the Twt permalink on the source pod that contains an @-mention of the target's Twtxt feed. So that should validate just fine hmm 🤔
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch I needn an example of where this breaks down I think. Do you happen to have one? 🤔 By all rights, looking at the code paths, the issue raised really doesn't make sense to me. The Source is the Twt permalink on the source pod that contains an @-mention of the target's Twtxt feed. So that should validate just fine hmm 🤔
darch
neotxt.dk
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Yarns does not generate a link back to the site that is being mentioned (eg. <a href="http://darch.dk/social">look here</a>) which is needed for validating that it is indeed a real webmention, ant not just spam. Try rereading the specs😉
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch But this is what I'm confused about. Why would my Twt contains a reference to http://darch.dk/social instead of http://darch.dk/twtxt.txt -- which the later is what I @-mentioned? 🤔
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch But this is what I'm confused about. Why would my Twt contains a reference to http://darch.dk/social instead of http://darch.dk/twtxt.txt -- which the later is what I @-mentioned? 🤔
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch But this is what I'm confused about. Why would my Twt contains a reference to http://darch.dk/social instead of http://darch.dk/twtxt.txt -- which the later is what I @-mentioned? 🤔
prologic
twtxt.net
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Does this make sense? Like my post will contain something like:


Hey @<darch http://darch.dk/twtxt.txt> blah blah

prologic
twtxt.net
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Does this make sense? Like my post will contain something like:


Hey @<darch http://darch.dk/twtxt.txt> blah blah

prologic
twtxt.net
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Does this make sense? Like my post will contain something like:


Hey @<darch http://darch.dk/twtxt.txt> blah blah

darch
neotxt.dk
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It need to be a proper link to the domain. And mention is linking to a profile page on the po, so it doesn't validate
darch
neotxt.dk
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It need to be a proper link to the domain. And mention is linking to a profile page on the pod, so it doesn't validate.
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch Got an example request?
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch Got an example request?
prologic
twtxt.net
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@darch Got an example request?